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The Honorable Jerome Kearney

Judge Jerome Kearney was born on May 30, 1956 in Gould, Arkansas to Thomas James Kearney and Ethel Curry Kearney. Kearney has eighteen siblings, including presidential appointee Janis F. Kearney. He graduated from Western Reserve Academy, a private college preparatory school in Hudson, Ohio, in 1974. He then received his B.A. degree in political science from Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee in 1978, where he was founding member of the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity. Kearney earned his J.D. degree from Vanderbilt University Law School in 1981.

While in law school, Kearney completed internships in the Tennessee Attorney General’s office and the Davidson County Public Defender Office. Upon graduating, he began his legal career working in private practice with his older siblings in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. He then worked as a trial attorney in the Pulaski County public defender’s office from 1982 to 1985. In 1985, Kearney was hired as a trial lawyer in the Arkansas Attorney General office, where he worked in the criminal appeals and litigation sections. From 1987 to 1990, Kearney worked as a trial attorney for the U.S. Department of Labor/Solicitors office in Dallas, Texas, handling cases in Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico, and Oklahoma. He then joined the federal public defender’s office in Oklahoma City, where he served as an assistant federal defender. In 1995, Kearney began working as a senior litigator in the U.S. Federal Public Defenders’ office in Little Rock under Jennifer Horan, who promoted him to first assistant in 2002. Kearney was the first African American to assume the role. In 2010, Kearney was appointed United States Magistrate Judge for the Eastern District of Arkansas and continued to serve in that role.

In 2006, Kearney received the National Outstanding Assistant Defender Award from the National Federal Defender Conference. Kearney served as a member and/or chairman of the Federal Practice Committee between 1997 and 2008, and was a member of the Henry Woods Inn of Courts legal practice society from 2003 to 2007.

Kearney is married to Nellie Faye Mays Kearney. He has four children: Bertrand, Sparkell, Jerome Jr., and Dylan.

Judge Jerome Kearney was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on March 13, 2018.

Accession Number

A2018.043

Sex

Male

Interview Date

3/13/2018

Last Name

Kearney

Maker Category
Middle Name

T.

Occupation
Schools

Gould High School

Vanderbilt University

Vanderbilt University Law School

First Name

Jerome

Birth City, State, Country

Gould

HM ID

KEA02

Favorite Season

Spring

State

Arkansas

Favorite Vacation Destination

Alaska

Favorite Quote

Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Arkansas

Birth Date

5/30/1956

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Little Rock

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Vanilla Ice Cream

Short Description

Judge Jerome Kearney (1956 - ) was the first African American to serve as an assistant federal public defender in the Arkansas Federal Public Defender Office. He went on to serve as a magistrate judge for the Eastern District of Arkansas from 2010 to 2018.

Employment

Federal Public Defender's Office, Arkansas

Federal Public Defender, Oklahoma

U.S. Department of Labor

Arkansas Attorney General's Office

Pulaski County Public Defender's Office

Favorite Color

Green

The Honorable LaDoris Cordell

Judge LaDoris Cordell was born on November 19, 1949 in Ardmore, Pennsylvania to Clara Beatrice Jenkins and Lewis Randall Hazzard. Cordell earned her B.A. degree in drama from Antioch College in 1971, and her J.D. degree from Stanford University in 1974.

Cordell opened the Law Office of LaDoris Hazzard Cordell in East Palo Alto, California. In 1978, she became the assistant dean for student affairs at Stanford University’s Law School. Cordell was appointed to the Municipal Court of Santa Clara County by Governor Jerry Brown in 1982. During her time on the Municipal Court, Cordell spent three months as justice pro tem for the State Court of Appeal, Sixth District. In 1988, Cordell won an election to the Superior Court of Santa Clara County, making her the first African American woman to sit on a Superior Court in Northern California. She remained on the court until 2001. Cordell was then hired as vice provost and special counselor to the president for campus relations at Stanford University. In 2003, she was elected to a four-year term on the Palo Alto City Council. Cordell retired from her position at Stanford in 2009 and was appointed as an independent police auditor by the City of San Jose the following year. She remained in that position until 2015. Cordell then served on a Blue Ribbon Panel that reviewed the operations of the San Francisco Police Department. In 2017, she was chosen to be the presiding judge on the television show, “You the Jury.”

Cordell received many awards for her community involvement and judicial career. She was the recipient of the Silicon Valley NAACP’s William E.B. Dubois Award, the Iola Williams Public Service Award, and the National Council of Negro Women’s Public Service Award. Cordell also received the Social Justice Award from the Legal Advocates for Children & Youth and the Rose Bird Memorial Award from the California Women Lawyers.

During her career, Cordell was involved with the Lucile Packard Foundation for Children, United Way of Santa Clara County, Community Working Group, Inc., Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund, the San Francisco Family Violence Project, and the East Palo Alto Art & Music Project, among many others. She also co-founded the African American Composer Initiative in 2014.

Cordell and her partner, Florence Keller, have two daughters, Cheran Denis Cordell and Starr Lynn Cordell.

LaDoris Hazzard Cordell was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on November 28, 2017.

Accession Number

A2017.207

Sex

Female

Interview Date

11/28/2017

Last Name

Cordell

Maker Category
Middle Name

Hazzard

Occupation
Organizations
Schools

Antioch College

Stanford Law School

First Name

LaDoris

Birth City, State, Country

Bryn Mawr

HM ID

COR07

State

Pennsylvania

Favorite Quote

Activism is my rent for living on this planet.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

California

Birth Date

11/19/1949

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Bay Area/Stanford

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Collard Greens

Short Description

Judge LaDoris Cordell (1949- ) served on the Municipal Court of Santa Clara County from 1982 until 1988. She was elected to the Superior Court of Santa Clara County in 1988 as the first African American woman to hold a Superior Court judgeship in Northern California, and served on the court until 2001.

Employment

Private Practice

Stanford Law School

Municipal Court

Superior Court

Stanford University

City of San Jose

CBS

The Honorable Olly Neal

Judge Olly Neal was born on July 31, 1941 in New Hope, Arkansas to Ollie Neal, Sr. and Willie Beatrice Jones Neal. Neal grew up on a small farm as one of thirteen children. He graduated from Moton High School in Marianna, Arkansas in 1958 and attended LeMoyne-Owens College in Memphis, Tennessee from 1960 until 1962. While at LeMoyen-Owens, Neal organized local sit-ins to protest the segregation of public spaces. He earned his B.S. degree in chemistry from LeMoyne-Owens College in 1974 and received his J.D. degree from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock in 1979.

In 1962, Neal moved to Chicago, Illinois and began working for the United States Postal Service. He was then drafted into the U.S. Army in 1964 and served in Vietnam, during which time he reached the rank of specialist. After his military service ended, Neal became executive director of the Lee County Cooperative Clinic in Marianna in 1970. In 1971, he helped organize and lead a boycott against white merchants in the downtown business district of Marianna. In 1990, Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker appointed Neal to serve as prosecuting attorney for the First Judicial District. Three years later, he was elected as a circuit court judge for the First Judicial District. Governor Tucker then appointed Neal to the Arkansas Court of Appeals in 1996, where he remained until his retirement in 2007. Neal accepted an interim position as a circuit court judge for the First Judicial District in 2010.

In 2003, Neal was awarded the Community Service Award by the Arkansas Judicial Council. He was also named an Outstanding Trial Judge by the Arkansas Trial Lawyers Association in 2010 and was inducted into the Arkansas Black Hall of Fame in 2014.

Neal served as a member of the board of directors for the Arkansas Judicial Council. He was also active with the Lee County School District, the Winthrop Rockefeller Foundation, the National Demonstration Water Project, and the Arkansas Land and Farm Development Cooperation.

Neal lives in Marianna, Arkansas. He has one daughter, Karama; and one son, Nakia.

Judge Olly Neal was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on September 19, 2017.

Accession Number

A2017.173

Sex

Male

Interview Date

09/19/2017

Last Name

Neal

Maker Category
Occupation
Organizations
Schools

Robert R. Moton High School

LeMoyne-Owen College

William H. Bowen School of Law

National Judicial College

First Name

Olly

Birth City, State, Country

Thomasville

HM ID

NEA03

Favorite Season

Spring

State

Arkansas

Favorite Vacation Destination

Clarksdale/Jackson Mississippi

Favorite Quote

Use pre-caution.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Arkansas

Birth Date

7/13/1941

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Little Rock

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Ham hocks and greens

Short Description

Judge Olly Neal (1941 - ) was the first black district prosecutor in Arkansas, and served on the Arkansas Court of Appeals for eleven years.

Favorite Color

Blue

The Honorable U. W. Clemon

Judge and state representative U.W. Clemon was born on April 9, 1943 in Fairfield, Alabama to Mose Clemon and Addie Clemon. He graduated from Westfield High School in 1961 and received his B.A. degree from Miles College in Fairfield, Alabama in 1965, and his J.D. degree from Columbia Law School in 1968.

After his graduation from Miles College, Clemon was active in the Civil Rights Movement in Birmingham, Alabama. He marched with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1963 and helped desegregate the Birmingham Public Library. While enrolled in law school, Clemon worked part-time in the New York office of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. After receiving his J.D. degree, Clemon returned to Birmingham and joined the law firm of Adams, Burg, & Baker. In 1969, on behalf of the University of Alabama’s black student organization, Clemon brought a lawsuit against football coach Paul “Bear” Bryant to force him to recruit black athletes. In 1974, Clemon was elected to represent the 15th District in the Alabama State Senate. He was one of the first African Americans elected to the Alabama Senate since Reconstruction, and chaired the Senate Rules Committee and the Judiciary Committee. Clemon fought against Governor George Wallace’s exclusion of African American citizens from state boards and agencies, as well as his reinstatement of the death penalty. In 1977, Clemon was credited with the defeat of an effort by conservative lawmakers at the federal level to reform the Fifth Circuit Court. In 1979, Clemon’s representation of police brutality victims led to an establishment of a biracial committee to improve relations between the African American community and the police, as well as the election of Richard Arrington, Jr., the first African American mayor of Birmingham. The following year, President Jimmy Carter appointed Clemon as Alabama’s first African American federal judge. He served on the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama and rose to the position of Chief Judge in 1999, a position he held until 2006. Clemon retired from the bench in 2009, after serving for twenty-nine years. Clemon then returned to his private law practice at White, Arnold, & Dowd.

Clemon and his wife, Barbara, have two children, Isaac and Michelle.

U.W. Clemon was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on May 3, 2017.

Accession Number

A2017.092

Sex

Male

Interview Date

05/03/2017

Last Name

Clemon

Maker Category
Organizations
First Name

U.W.

Birth City, State, Country

Fairfield

HM ID

CLE08

Favorite Season

Fall

State

Alabama

Favorite Vacation Destination

Caribbean - Mediterranean Cruises

Favorite Quote

Come my friends 'tis not too late to seek a new world ... etc. (Tennyson)

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Alabama

Birth Date

4/9/1943

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Birmingham

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Sweet potatoes

Short Description

Judge and state representative U.W. Clemon (1943 - ) was an Alabama State Senator and served for twenty-nine years as U.S. District Court Judge for the Northern District of Alabama, and rose to the position of chief judge.

Favorite Color

Blue

The Honorable Edwin A. Lombard

Judge Edwin A. Lombard was born on June 11, 1946 in New Orleans, Louisiana. Lombard graduated from Xavier University Preparatory School in New Orleans, Louisiana in 1964. He was one of the first African Americans admitted to Tulane University in New Orleans, Louisiana, where he was a Rockefeller Scholar and earned his B.A. degree in 1967. Lombard attended Southern University Law School in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and received his J.D. degree from Loyola University New Orleans College of Law where he was a Roosevelt Fellow, in 1970. He also attended the New York University School of Law Institute for Appellate Judges.

After receiving his B.A. degree, Lombard worked for the “Voter Education Project” as part of its voter registration drive. Following his admission to the Louisiana State Bar in 1973, Lombard was elected to the position of Clerk of the Orleans Parish Criminal District Court. He was one of the youngest African American elected officials in the United States at the time. Soon after, Lombard was selected as the chief election officer for the Orleans Parish, as the first African American to hold this position in the South. Lombard remained in his position on the Orleans Parish Criminal District Court until 2003, when he was elected to the Fourth District Court of Appeals in New Orleans. He was reelected to the position in 2012.

In 2004, Lombard was selected to sit ad hoc on the Louisiana Supreme Court for In Re Ellender case, which was about racial misconduct by Judge Timothy C. Ellender. After the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, he was appointed as Supernumerary Judge pro tempore of the Criminal District Court for Orleans Parish by the Louisiana Supreme Court to help rebuild. Lombard was also appointed as a member of the Judiciary Commission of Louisiana by the Supreme Court. He also served as president of the National Bar Association’s Louisiana Judicial Council, the Algiers-Fischer Community Organization and was a member of the New Orleans Legal Assistance Corporation, and TOTAL Community Action Inc.. In 2012, Lombard was awarded the George W. Crockett, Jr. Lifetime Achievement Award by the National Bar Association.

Edwin A. Lombard was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on May 22, 2017.

Accession Number

A2017.108

Sex

Male

Interview Date

05/22/2017

Last Name

Lombard

Maker Category
Middle Name

A.

Occupation
Organizations
Schools

Xavier University Preparatory School

Tulane University

Loyola University New Orleans

First Name

Edwin

Birth City, State, Country

New Orleans

HM ID

LOM02

Favorite Season

Spring

State

Louisiana

Favorite Vacation Destination

New York

Favorite Quote

To thine own self be true.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Louisiana

Birth Date

6/11/1946

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

New Orleans

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Oysters

Short Description

Judge Edwin A. Lombard (1946 - ) has served the courts of Louisiana for over thirty years.

Employment

Court of Appeals, Fourth District

Criminal District Court

Southern University

Nelson and Lombard

Collins, Douglas and Elie

New Orleans City Attorney's Office

Secretary of Utilities

Favorite Color

Blue

The Honorable H. Ron White

Judge and lawyer H. Ron White was born on February 10, 1941 in Richmond, Virginia to Ernest White and Mattie White. He graduated from Maggie L. Walter High School in 1958. White received his B.S. degree in biology and chemistry from Hampton University in 1962, and his J.D. degree from Howard University in 1971.

After graduation from Hampton University, White joined the U.S. Army in 1962. He was stationed in Kaiserslautern and Mannheim, Germany, and at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. From 1967 until 1968, White served a tour of duty in Vietnam, and was stationed in Quin Yan. By the end of his military service, he had reached the rank of captain. White began his professional career in 1971 at the Atlantic Richfield Oil Company as an environmental and labor attorney. He was promoted to the position of federal regulatory compliance counsel in 1974. Two years later, White joined Irvin & White, P.C., which became White, Mahomes, and Briscoe, P.C. the following year. In 1979, White established the Law Offices of H. Ron White & Associates. He then served as a district court judge in the State of Texas after being appointed to the position in 1983. White returned to his private law practice in 1985, and served as a partner at White & Wiggins.

In addition to his law practice, White has been active in a number of organizations. Specifically, he has been a board member of The General Counsel Forum for the Dallas and Fort Worth Chapter, and the Urban League of Greater Dallas and North Texas. White has also been a member of the Texas Bar College and the National Bar Association, as well as a Life Fellow of Texas Bar Foundation.

White has been recognized and awarded for his contributions to the community. In 2004, White was named as “Trial Lawyer of the Year” by the Dallas Bar. He also received the Dallas Bar Foundation Fellows Award for Outstanding Service to the Bar and Civic Community in 2006. White was named as one of the fifty “Lions of the Texas Bar” by The Texas Lawbook, as well as a Texas Super Lawyer by Martindale-Hubbell in 2005 and from 2010 through 2015.

White and his wife, Rita C. White, have one son, Eric.

H. Ron White was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on March 14, 2017.

Accession Number

A2017.069

Sex

Male

Interview Date

03/14/2017

Last Name

White

Maker Category
Marital Status

Married

Middle Name

Ron

Occupation
Schools

George Washington Carver Elementary School

Benjamin Graves Junior High School

Maggie L. Walker High School

Hampton University

Howard University School of Law

Westwood School

First Name

H.

Birth City, State, Country

Richmond

HM ID

WHI24

Favorite Season

Spring

State

Virginia

Favorite Vacation Destination

Bahamas, St. Martin

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Texas

Interview Description
Birth Date

6/10/1941

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Dallas

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Steak, Hamburger, Liver

Short Description

Judge and lawyer H. Ron White (1941 - ) was appointed State of Texas District Court Judge and was named “Trial Lawyer of the Year” by the Dallas Bar Association in 2004

Employment

White & Wiggins, LLP

Law Offices of H. Ron White & Associates, P.C.

State of Texas

U.S. Army

Atlantic Richfield Company

Favorite Color

Blue

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Tape: 1 Story: 1 - Slating of H. Ron White's interview

Tape: 1 Story: 2 - H. Ron White lists his favorites

Tape: 1 Story: 3 - H. Ron White describes his mother's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 4 - H. Ron White talks about his mother's upbringing

Tape: 1 Story: 5 - H. Ron White describes his father's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 6 - H. Ron White talks about his father's education

Tape: 1 Story: 7 - H. Ron White describes his father's community involvement

Tape: 1 Story: 8 - H. Ron White recalls how his parents met

Tape: 1 Story: 9 - H. Ron White describes his parents' personalities and who he takes after

Tape: 1 Story: 10 - H. Ron White describes his father's military service

Tape: 1 Story: 11 - H. Ron White lists his siblings

Tape: 1 Story: 12 - H. Ron White talks about his son's occupation

Tape: 1 Story: 13 - H. Ron White remembers enrolling at Westwood School in Richmond, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 1 - H. Ron White talks about the desegregation of Virginia schools

Tape: 2 Story: 2 - H. Ron White describes Westwood School in Richmond, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 3 - H. Ron White describes his childhood home

Tape: 2 Story: 4 - H. Ron White remembers the Westwood community

Tape: 2 Story: 5 - H. Ron White recalls the business district of Richmond's Westwood community

Tape: 2 Story: 6 - H. Ron White talks about the African American businesses in Richmond, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 7 - H. Ron White recalls the schools he attended in Richmond, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 8 - H. Ron White describes his involvement in the school band

Tape: 2 Story: 9 - H. Ron White recalls his early interest in science

Tape: 2 Story: 10 - H. Ron White remembers influential high school teachers

Tape: 2 Story: 11 - H. Ron White recalls his decision to attend Hampton Institute in Hampton, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 12 - H. Ron White remembers his early work shining shoes

Tape: 2 Story: 13 - H. Ron White describes his father's interest in golf

Tape: 3 Story: 1 - H. Ron White talks about his paternal family's tailoring experience

Tape: 3 Story: 2 - H. Ron White recalls his jobs in high school

Tape: 3 Story: 3 - H. Ron White remembers attending the Hampton Institute in Hampton, Virginia

Tape: 3 Story: 4 - H. Ron White recalls his early experiences of religion

Tape: 3 Story: 5 - H. Ron White talks about his musical interests

Tape: 3 Story: 6 - H. Ron White remembers performing in the Hampton Institute Band and Orchestra

Tape: 3 Story: 7 - H. Ron White describes his academic interests at the Hampton Institute

Tape: 3 Story: 8 - H. Ron White talks about the impact of the film 'Hidden Figures'

Tape: 3 Story: 9 - H. Ron White talks about his scientific interests at the Hampton Institute

Tape: 3 Story: 10 - H. Ron White remembers his extracurricular activities in college

Tape: 3 Story: 11 - H. Ron White recalls joining the U.S. Army

Tape: 3 Story: 12 - H. Ron White remembers meeting his wife

Tape: 4 Story: 1 - H. Ron White talks about the civil rights activities at the Hampton Institute in Hampton, Virginia

Tape: 4 Story: 2 - H. Ron White remembers the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

Tape: 4 Story: 3 - H. Ron White describes his experiences in Germany

Tape: 4 Story: 4 - H. Ron White recalls being deployed to Vietnam

Tape: 4 Story: 5 - H. Ron White describes Qui Nhon, Vietnam

Tape: 4 Story: 6 - H. Ron White talks about starting a jazz band in Vietnam

Tape: 4 Story: 7 - H. Ron White remembers considering his career options after his release from the U.S. Army

Tape: 4 Story: 8 - H. Ron White recalls his decision to pursue a career in law

Tape: 4 Story: 9 - H. Ron White remembers the assassination of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Tape: 4 Story: 10 - H. Ron White recalls entering Howard University School of Law in Washington, D.C.

Tape: 4 Story: 11 - H. Ron White remembers his favorite law school instructors

Tape: 4 Story: 12 - H. Ron White describes the most difficult aspects of law school

Tape: 4 Story: 13 - H. Ron White remembers being recruited by Atlantic Richfield Company in Dallas, Texas

Tape: 5 Story: 1 - H. Ron White describes his experiences at Howard University School of Law in Washington, D.C.

Tape: 5 Story: 2 - H. Ron White remembers being interviewed by Atlantic Richfield Company in Dallas, Texas

Tape: 5 Story: 3 - H. Ron White recalls his decision to move to Dallas, Texas

Tape: 5 Story: 4 - H. Ron White describes the creation of J.L. Turner Legal Association

Tape: 5 Story: 5 - H. Ron White remembers his supportive coworkers at Atlantic Richfield Company

Tape: 5 Story: 6 - H. Ron White recalls joining the Dallas Bar Association

Tape: 5 Story: 7 - H. Ron White remembers his organizational involvement while at Atlantic Richfield Company

Tape: 5 Story: 8 - H. Ron White recalls his involvement in the Dallas, Texas community

Tape: 5 Story: 9 - H. Ron White talks about the migration of African Americans to southern cities

Tape: 5 Story: 10 - H. Ron White remembers guest speakers for the Committee of 100

Tape: 6 Story: 1 - H. Ron White recalls the formation of the Committee of 100

Tape: 6 Story: 2 - H. Ron White talks about the spread of information in the Dallas African American community

Tape: 6 Story: 3 - H. Ron White talks about the gendered division of social organizations, pt. 1

Tape: 6 Story: 4 - H. Ron White talks about the gendered division of social organizations, pt. 2

Tape: 6 Story: 5 - H. Ron White recalls the changes in African American business markets

Tape: 6 Story: 6 - H. Ron White remembers working to educate Dallas' African American business community

Tape: 6 Story: 7 - H. Ron White recalls Dallas' challenges with desegregation

Tape: 6 Story: 8 - H. Ron White describes the importance of city support for new residents

Tape: 6 Story: 9 - H. Ron White remembers African American elected officials in Dallas, Texas

Tape: 6 Story: 10 - H. Ron White talks about organizations promoting African American politicians

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(Simultaneous) You were just talking off camera about you being the oldest student and having--giving, giving you a little advantage on (unclear) in law school [Howard University School of Law, Washington, D.C.] (simultaneous).$$(Simultaneous) Right, 'cause I was, you know, I was at least five or six years older than the average student that would have been admitted at that time and then I had that real life experience being married [to Rita White] and having a child [Eric White] and having been in the [U.S.] military so you see things a little bit different than the student that's, who's just coming out of college who is going to law school with a few life experiences, okay. So that enabled me to, I think, develop a relationship with some of the faculty to the extent that I was selected, I guess, that last year to be the student faculty representative for the, for the law school and that was a time when Pat [ph.] and some of the others, Harrison [ph.], and some of the others were there and they were having issues trying to, you know, students began to not only boycott but raise issues at the school. Back during that time, they, they weren't that bashful about, about trying to improve the climate and ensure that we were getting the kind of resources that we felt we needed that we were investing in for our career. So, I did get a chance to participate in that capacity on behalf of the student body, the law school student body, my last year.$I came down, got a couple of people that were trying to be courteous and cordial and show me around a little bit. I realized when I got back, I didn't have a lot of information that I could share with my wife [Rita White] and they wanted to know, they said, "Well we're really interested, we'd like to make you an offer," you know, and I said, "Well, I'm--I'd be happy to consider that offer but I'm not sure I'm able to make any decisions regarding that offer without first having my wife to come down and take a look and so we can better determine what the alternatives are for my family," okay, 'cause at that time I had a wife and a son [Eric White]. And so they said, "Oh yeah, we'd be, we'd be happy to do that." So they, they did in fact arrange for me, I think a couple of weeks or so later. They said, "You let me know what time you can come and arranged for me to come back down to spend another weekend and, and to look around, to try to make that decision." We did, they got a slightly different crew. I told them, I don't want them to take me just to the white areas, I need to see where the black communities are, I need to talk with someone else who'll give me a better perspective of what, what's here really for African Americans. And so they arranged that also. Was there something you need to get?$$No, no, no. I keep hearing something but it's all right.$$Yeah, but anyways, so, so we did that and I, when I came down this time, I had to, I wanted to visit with the African American lawyers that were in town and I, my contact at that time was, was C.B. Bunkley [C.B. Bunkley, Jr.] who had been here for a while. L.A. Bedford [Louis A. Bedford, Jr.] was another prominent lawyer who had been involved, who was here. My classmate, Walter Irvin [ Walter L. Irvin] had been here a year before and Walter had graduated from Howard [Howard University School of Law, Washington, D.C.] also that year before and had been here and so those were the, the four, three or four persons that I spoke with on that second trip and I think but for the encouragement of, of C.B. Bunkley, whose son-in-law became the city attorney for Dallas [Texas] in subsequent years but he was well respected because he had been here practicing. He had primarily a civil practice, sole, sole practitioner, just like everyone in the city, primarily the sole practitioners except for a couple of them that had partnered together or working together, not so much partnered but that was the, that was the legal climate at that point. So, Bunkley said that, you know, he said, "Ron [HistoryMaker H. Ron White], I know you, you know, you'll be the first African American to be extended an offer or at least potentially accept an offer, we need you to accept this offer because that hopefully will begin to open some doors in terms of getting some more lawyers hired by some of these corporations and businesses and that, you know, that included the, the governmental entities too." So I said, said, "Well, I had told them I had to get with my wife, I need to see, see the various areas that, where we could probably live and see what we could, we could arrange." I said, "Well if I can't make it work, I'm going to get an agreement so they'll send me back to D.C. [Washington, D.C.] in two years." So, I got that agreement in place as a part of the condition of accepting the offer. There are several other things I think I discussed or was considered in making that decision. So my wife and I said, well, we'll give it a shot and see what we can do. So we established those conditions with the encouragement of the African American lawyers that were well respected at that time in the market, saying, "We'll help wherever we can, if you don't like it and you still want to practice, you've got an office here in my, in my building to work, to do some work," so that gave me another alternative that if it doesn't work I can still go out and practice with the, one or the other established lawyers and make a go of it. That was in part the dynamics of what, what evolved in terms of my decision to come down and give it a shot.

The Honorable Roger L. Gregory

Judge Roger L. Gregory was born on July 17, 1953 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, but raised in Petersburg, Virginia. He graduated from Petersburg High School in 1971, and enrolled at Virginia State University, where he graduated summa cum laude in 1975, and earned his J.D. degree from the University of Michigan Law School in 1978.

In 1978, Gregory became the first African American attorney at the law firm of Butzel, Long, Gust, Klein & Van Zile in Detroit. In 1980, he joined the Richmond law firm of Hunton & Williams LLP. Gregory was nominated by President Bill Clinton to be the first African American judge on the Richmond-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, but the Senate refused to hold Gregory’s confirmation hearing. He was then nominated by President George W. Bush and confirmed in 2001. In 2014, he joined the majority opinion on Bostic v. Schaefer, which overturned Virginia’s ban on same-sex marriage. Also that year, Gregory authored the court’s unanimous opinion on King v. Burwell, which upheld tax subsidies for health insurance purchased on federal exchanges under the Affordable Care Act. In 2016, Gregory became the first African American chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

Gregory has served on numerous boards, including: Richmond Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce, Richmond Arts Council, Virginia State University Foundation, Richmond Bar Association, and Central Virginia Legal Aid Society. He served as president of the Friends Association for Children and the Black History Museum and Cultural Center of Virginia. Gregory was chairman of the Industrial Development Authority of Richmond and the executive committee of Richmond Renaissance. Gregory also sat on the board of ChildFund International and served on the board of the Virginia Historical Society.
He serves as trustee emeritus on the Board of Trustees at the University of Richmond. He serves on the Junior Board of Directors of the John Marshall Foundation. He is a member of the American Bar Association and was keynote speaker for the opening assembly at the 2005 ABA annual meeting in Chicago. He is a member of the National Bar Association and the Old Dominion Bar Association of which Gregory is a past president. He is a member of the State Bar of Michigan and Virginia.

He was the recipient of many awards, including the 1997 National Conference of Christians and Jews Humanitarian Award. He was featured in Ebony magazine as one of the “56 Most Intriguing Blacks of 2001.” In 2002, he received the Pioneer Visionary Award from the National Black Student Leadership Development Conference. In 2003, Judge Gregory received the Dominion Resources Strong Men and Women: Excellence in Leadership Award. Gregory was also awarded the Old Dominion Bar Association’s L. Douglas Wilder Vangard Award. He was also awarded the National Bar Association’s Gertrude E. Rush and Equal Justice Awards, and the Thurgood Marshall Award of Excellence. In 2015, he received the Washington Bar Association’s Charles Hamilton Houston Merit Medallion.

Roger L. Gregory was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on December 9, 2016.

Accession Number

A2016.102

Sex

Male

Interview Date

12/9/2016

Last Name

Gregory

Maker Category
Marital Status

Married

Middle Name

L.

Occupation
Schools

Virginia Avenue Elementary School

Peabody High School

Petersburg High School

Virginia State University

University of Michigan Law School

First Name

Roger

Birth City, State, Country

Philadelphia

HM ID

GRE16

Favorite Season

Fall

State

Pennsylvania

Favorite Vacation Destination

Beaches

Favorite Quote

Is The Currency Reason Or Power?

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Virginia

Interview Description
Birth Date

7/17/1953

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Richmond

Country

USA

Short Description

Judge Roger L. Gregory (1953 - ) was appointed to serve as a judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in 2001, becoming the first African American chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in 2016.

Employment

United States Court of Appeals

Wilder, Gregory & Associates

Hunton & Williams

Butzel, Long, Gust, Klein & Van Zile

Favorite Color

Blue

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Tape: 1 Story: 2 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory lists his favorites

Tape: 1 Story: 3 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his mother's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 4 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his mother's career

Tape: 1 Story: 5 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his father's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 6 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his father's career

Tape: 1 Story: 7 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his father's career as a gospel singer

Tape: 1 Story: 8 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his likeness to his parents

Tape: 1 Story: 9 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his adoption

Tape: 1 Story: 10 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his earliest childhood memory

Tape: 1 Story: 11 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers growing up in the Heights of Petersburg, Virginia, pt. 1

Tape: 1 Story: 12 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about the events of the Civil War in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 1 Story: 13 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls the civil rights history of Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 1 Story: 14 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers growing up in the Heights of Petersburg, Virginia, pt. 2

Tape: 2 Story: 1 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers Virginia Avenue Elementary School in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 2 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his early exposure to the Civil Rights Movement

Tape: 2 Story: 3 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes the history of Peabody High School in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 4 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his activities at Peabody High School in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 5 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about the famous residents of Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 6 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers his teachers at Peabody High School in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 7 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his experiences at Virginia State College in Petersburg, Virginia

Tape: 2 Story: 8 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his transition to the University of Michigan Law School in Ann Arbor, Michigan

Tape: 2 Story: 9 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his experiences at the University of Michigan Law School

Tape: 2 Story: 10 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his internships during law school

Tape: 2 Story: 11 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his start as a litigator

Tape: 2 Story: 12 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers his undergraduate courses with L. Douglas Wilder

Tape: 2 Story: 13 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his transition to Hunton and Williams LLP

Tape: 2 Story: 14 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his first marriage

Tape: 2 Story: 15 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his cases at Hunton and Williams LLP

Tape: 3 Story: 1 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about the law firm of Wilder and Gregory

Tape: 3 Story: 2 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about L. Douglas Wilder's political career

Tape: 3 Story: 3 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his appointment to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit

Tape: 3 Story: 4 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers presiding over United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui

Tape: 3 Story: 5 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his citations in U.S. Supreme Court opinions

Tape: 3 Story: 6 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his involvement in theater

Tape: 3 Story: 7 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about the public opinion of lawyers

Tape: 3 Story: 8 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers the Brown v. Board of Education 50th Anniversary Commission

Tape: 3 Story: 9 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers Oliver W. Hill and Reverend Dr. Wyatt Tee Walker

Tape: 3 Story: 10 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his decision of Bostic v. Schaefer

Tape: 3 Story: 11 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his views on police brutality, pt. 1

Tape: 4 Story: 1 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his views on police brutality, pt. 2

Tape: 4 Story: 2 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory shares his advice for improving the criminal justice system

Tape: 4 Story: 3 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his judicial philosophy

Tape: 4 Story: 4 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his opinion on King v. Burwell

Tape: 4 Story: 5 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory remembers the death of his first wife

Tape: 4 Story: 6 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory recalls his appointment as chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit

Tape: 4 Story: 7 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory reflects upon his life

Tape: 4 Story: 8 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory reflects upon his legacy

Tape: 4 Story: 9 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes his hopes and concerns for the African American community

Tape: 4 Story: 10 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory talks about his children

Tape: 4 Story: 11 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory describes how he would like to be remembered

Tape: 5 Story: 1 - The Honorable Roger L. Gregory narrates his photographs

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When you joined Douglas Wilder [HistoryMaker L. Douglas Wilder], he, was he just by myself?$$Yeah, he was by himself, yeah he was by, he had been sharing office in the same building with somebody. He was by himself, he had--1982, when he came and formed together, formed the firm of Wilder and Gregory in 1982, yeah.$$Yeah, so he was operating in the old style--black lawyer--$$Yeah, the old style, yeah he had his--$$Always had to have his shingle up.$$That's right.$$People would come see him, talking about my boy's in trouble, see if you can help him and--$$Exactly.$$Or, you know, insurance company's trying to cheat me, see if you can help me, you know, all that kind of stuff.$$Oh, that's right, that's the kind of price we had and--$$Yeah.$$I love it, you know, people--you had to really produce. It wasn't about the--you couldn't just read your resume (unclear), "Well, I went to the University of Michigan Law School [Ann Arbor, Michigan] and I worked for Hunton and Williams [Hunton and Williams LLP, Richmond, Virginia] and Butzel Long [Butzel, Long, Gust, Klein and Van Zile; Butzel Long]." Yeah, okay but can you handle this matter. I love that, and you had to produce and you had to really show what you could do. So it was, it was, it was good. And Governor Wilder, he was--then senator, he was awesome trial lawyer. I--his timing and just quick mind, I learned--we used to tried cases together, he was just awesome.$$Okay, all right. So he brings you in as a partner. And what was your plan? What was, what was Doug Wilder's plan--$$Well--$$--for you to be part of his--what were you going to work on?$$Well, you know, you know, he was in the Senate [Senate of Virginia] then, and the whole idea was, you know, he had some idea of what value I could bring to the table. And then fortunately he trusted that I could help build upon and (unclear)--institutionalize it for the first time. I think it helped him to see what he might have be able to do beyond just as an individual lawyer but a firm, an institution. And we did, the two of us practiced and then we had hired an associate. And we built up and when we finished, we had eleven lawyers and we did bond work and all kinds of work. So we grew and took that opportunity but we still did the core things, like you talk about when, you know, the mom and dad and junior's in trouble or we need this. We were the firm that could answer those needs and do it at the highest level. And then we--only difference was in our view, was we're just smaller. But we didn't take a back seat to anybody in terms of confidence and ability and that's what I learned from him and that confidence and competence, yeah.$$Um-hm, okay. So he was in the state senate even then (simultaneous).$$(Simultaneous) He was in the state senate and he would--$$Yeah.$$--at the end of the day, I loved that we would come back and he would talk about the day. And the senate floor and the politics and his, and just his comprehensive knowledge, he's the quintessential statesman. Not only a politician but a statesman, in terms of understanding the needs of people and addressing what really makes the difference and how to make the political process work for the better good. The common weal, as they say it, and the commonwealth. And that's what he, he dedicated his public service to it. And a, had a high sense of duty and public service, modeled by him.$$Okay, all right. So now did you help in his campaigns when--$$No, I helped by this, that I always say that I want to make sure that my priority was that I do nothing to dishonor and hurt his opportunity. So my job was to keep the home front going, matter of fact, when he ran for lieutenant governor, his headquarters was in our law firm. So I lived and breathed it every day. So, but, no, you know, and my job was to keep the firm going. And he was--as lieutenant governor, you know, he would, he could still practice law, so his mind was, he was right on target, he knew what was going on, he tried cases, so it was a wonderful partnership. And, you know, and we never signed a document, it was by handshake and understanding, yeah. Now it's been unheard of to be able to do something like that. But that's the kind of ilk of a, of person that he was and still is.$$Okay, okay. So for--before your first appointment as judge, you like, you were working with Douglas Wilder for--$$Oh, yeah, it was from--$$--basically (simultaneous)--$$--(simultaneous) from 1982 all the way up to 19--well, 2000--$$--to 2001, that's like twe- twenty years.$$To 2000, yeah. Long, yeah, it's a long--$$You had a twenty years so--$$Long time.$$--so what are the cases, some of the cases that you all dealt with that you dealt with--$$Oh, yeah, well, we--$$--during that period of time (simultaneous)?$$(Simultaneous) We dealt with a lot of (makes sound)--I tried murder cases, double homicide cases. We--I did--and what we did was, we can, we be--we're fortunate to be an American Bar Association demonstration project. People like [HistoryMaker] Dennis Archer, who's the first black president of the American Bar and then Robert Grey [Robert J. Grey, Jr.], who's the second black, they helped us get into that. And we could show it so we started getting corporate clients nationally. So we did work for Ford Motor Company and did some work for General Motors [General Motors Corporation; General Motors Company] and other, and, so we did defense work for insurance companies so we broadened our footprint. But we still did the old school criminal defense work too. And we did bond work, so I loved it, it was a great pra- we had eleven lawyers. (Mumbles) one of the largest African American owned, at the time, firms in Virginia. And it was wonderful, some bright lawyers we got people who worked at the firm who are now judges. And I'm so proud that it wasn't--and that's where the point about institutionalizing. The firm is still in existence, it's called Harrell and Chambliss [Harrell and Chambliss LLP]. But that's the firm and so proud that that's still going on. It wasn't just--'cause, you know, success is seized having a plan of succession and them taking the ball running and gone further on, and I'm very proud of them so, yeah we were able to, thank God, to do something that was significant and still goes on as a legacy.$So we talked about Bostic versus Schaefer [Bostic v. Schaefer, 2014], right?$$Um-hm.$$The same sex marriage--$$(Nods head).$$But was there a lot of, you know, it's been said that the black church is one of the most unprogressive on this subject of any of the institutions in the black community. And it's probably a place where you're going to, you're going to visibly see a lot of gay people doing things in the church.$$Well, you know, yeah, you know, yeah it's--as a judge, you know, I (laughter), I don't really get to com- comment on that but, you know, I think, you know--$$Okay.$$--preachers that have their, have your faith in what there is. But, you know, as the, as the law in construing it, I mean I found the case to be not very compliment, not very complicated on the law after Lawrence [Lawrence v. Texas, 2003], when the [U.S.] Supreme Court said that matters of sexual encounters and intimacies among consenting adults can't be banned, so once that, 'cause that--I thought it was the moral traditions was the longest and strongest issue that states said, "We can ban it." But once that's no longer the case it came to be dis- discrimination in terms of how could that be legally deprived by based on who they loved. So from a legal standpoint, but I think people have very strong religious and moral views about it which, you know, because--and I remember sitting in my office before the argument, I could hear people chanting on one side versus the other. But I thought how wonderful it is to live in a country where people can voice their views one way or the other but, yet in an ordered fashion. I'd be going in a few minutes in a court of law and deciding the case and in an ordered fashion, and not being disturbed by the slogans of the time or whatever but by being drawn to what the law--and interpret it as best you could--the [U.S.] Constitution. So, you know, it's--it does speak to freedom of ideas and thought, but the law had prevailed, so it was quite a moment (unclear) cases.$$Okay. Is it, is there ever a time when you feel that the sacred and the secular are clashing too much or there's a--$$No.$$--there's a--$$I don't think and I think we all comes with our backgrounds and construct, you know, you know the--I'm a Christian and I, yeah and I have very strong faith and also, not but, and also I'm a, I'm a judge. And if it comes to the point there's anything that my view in that regard is so overwhelming that it surmounts my interpretation (unclear) of the law, then I shouldn't sit and cannot sit on that. 'Cause you take an oath to be impartial and that's what the job is. Like I have death cases, but my personal views of the death penalty is of no moment, the question is was there constitutional error. And if it was, then the writ should be granted, you know. And, but if isn't then, the writ is not, you know. So, you know, it's looking at the law but certainly, you know, you wear the hat as a human being, and I got three daughters, I'm a father and a husband. It's like everybody else but it's that the obligation to look at the law and judge it fairly. That's why justice is blindfolded because she's saying that I'm not looking at who's before me, where they're from, their ethnicity or gender or whatever. But I'm only interested in what is the weight of the evidence. And the side that wins the one under the law and the facts have the weight of the evidence and the preponderance of the standard and that's who prevails. But not who I visually see and connect with or would want it to be in my personal view.

The Honorable Glenda Hatchett

Judge Glenda Hatchett was born on May 31, 1951 in Atlanta, Georgia to Clemmie Barnes and Paul Lawrence Hatchett. In 1969, Hatchett graduated from Charles Lincoln Harper High School, a segregated school in Atlanta’s Collier Heights. She received her B.A. degree in political science from Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, Massachusetts in 1973, and went on to obtain her J.D. degree from Emory University School of Law in Atlanta in 1977.

After completing a federal clerkship in the United States District Court in the Northern District of Georgia, Hatchett worked in the legal department at Delta Air Lines, Inc. As a senior attorney, she represented the company in labor and anti-trust cases, and participated in merger negotiations. She was then promoted to manager of Delta’s public relations department, handling global crisis management and media relations for the U.S., Europe and Asia. In 1991, upon her appointment to the Fulton County Juvenile Court, Hatchett became the first African American chief judge of a state court. In collaboration with the Atlanta Bar Association and Alston & Bird, Hatchett helped found the Truancy Intervention Project, an early intervention program for truant children. In 1998, Hatchett resigned from the Fulton County Juvenile Court to spend time with her two children before accepting an offer from Sony Pictures Television to have her own television show, Judge Hatchett. Nominated for two Emmy Awards, Judge Hatchett ran between 2000 and 2008. In 2014, Hatchett created her own national law firm, The Hatchett Firm, focused on wrongful death, catastrophic injury, medical malpractice, product liability, class action, premises liability and social security cases. Concerned about police brutality against African American men, Hatchett announced that she would represent Philando Castile’s family in 2016.

While filming Judge Hatchett, Hatchett released her first self-help book, Say What You Mean and Mean What You Say!: Saving Your Child from a Troubled World. She released her second book, Dare to Take Charge: How to Live Your Life on Purpose, in 2012. In addition to her civic contributions, Hatchett received numerous awards, including the Roscoe Pound Award, the National Council on Crime and Delinquency’s highest recognition, and the NAACP Thurgood Marshall Award. The Girl Scouts of the United States of America named Hatchett one of its 10 National Women of Distinction. She also served on multiple boards, including the National Football League’s Atlanta Falcons’ Board of Advisors.

Judge Glenda Hatchett was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on October 5, 2016.

Accession Number

A2016.043

Sex

Female

Interview Date

10/5/2016

Last Name

Hatchett

Maker Category
Occupation
Schools

Anderson Park Elementary School

Charles Lincoln Harper High School

Mount Holyoke College

Emory University School of Law

First Name

Glenda

Birth City, State, Country

Atlanta

HM ID

HAT02

Favorite Season

Spring

State

Georgia

Favorite Vacation Destination

Beaches

Favorite Quote

Great Day.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Georgia

Interview Description
Birth Date

5/31/1951

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Atlanta

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Salmon

Short Description

Judge Glenda Hatchett (1951 - ) became the first African American chief judge of a state court when she was appointed to the Fulton County Juvenile Court in 1991. She was featured in her own television show, Judge Hatchett, and in 2014, founded the national law firm, The Hatchett Firm.

Employment

Emory University School of Law

United States District Court - Northern District of Georgia

Delta Air Lines, Inc.

Fulton County Juvenile Court

Columbia/Tri-Star Television

11Alive Atlanta

The Hatchett Firm

Entertainment Studios, Inc.

Favorite Color

Red

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DAStories

Tape: 1 Story: 1 - Slating of The Honorable Glenda Hatchett's interview

Tape: 1 Story: 2 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett lists her favorites

Tape: 1 Story: 3 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her mother's family background, pt. 1

Tape: 1 Story: 4 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her mother's family background, pt. 2

Tape: 1 Story: 5 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her maternal grandmother

Tape: 1 Story: 6 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her mother's education

Tape: 1 Story: 7 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her father's family background, pt. 1

Tape: 1 Story: 8 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her father's family background, pt. 2

Tape: 1 Story: 9 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers her father's career

Tape: 2 Story: 1 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her father's experiences at Clark College in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 2 Story: 2 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes how her parents met

Tape: 2 Story: 3 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her parents' personalities and who she takes after

Tape: 2 Story: 4 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her experiences at Anderson Park Elementary School in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 2 Story: 5 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett reflects upon her father's lessons about racial discrimination

Tape: 2 Story: 6 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her early experiences of religion

Tape: 3 Story: 1 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers her mentors at Anderson Park Elementary School in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 3 Story: 2 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her extracurricular activities

Tape: 3 Story: 3 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her experiences of segregation in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 3 Story: 4 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her experiences at Charles Lincoln Harper High School in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 3 Story: 5 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers leading a walkout at Charles Lincoln Harper High School

Tape: 3 Story: 6 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her achievements during high school

Tape: 3 Story: 7 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her community in Atlanta, Georgia

Tape: 4 Story: 1 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett recalls her summer program at Phillips Exeter Academy

Tape: 4 Story: 2 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her decision to attend Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, Massachusetts

Tape: 4 Story: 3 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers her freshman roommate at Mount Holyoke College

Tape: 4 Story: 4 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers the assassination of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Tape: 4 Story: 5 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett recalls the integration of the University of Georgia

Tape: 4 Story: 6 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett describes her experiences at Mount Holyoke College

Tape: 4 Story: 7 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett talks about her social life at Mouth Holyoke College

Tape: 4 Story: 8 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers her professors at Mount Holyoke College

Tape: 4 Story: 9 - The Honorable Glenda Hatchett remembers studying under Max Roach

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The Honorable Glenda Hatchett recalls the integration of the University of Georgia
The Honorable Glenda Hatchett reflects upon her father's lessons about racial discrimination
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And I must add an important piece to this. Hamilton Holmes was my next door neighbor, who was the first black student, he and [HistoryMaker] Charlayne Hunter-Gault, the two first black students to integrate the University of Georgia [Athens, Georgia].$$Yes.$$So--$$Right, right.$$--I had gone through all of that with--Hamp was like my big brother, you know, much, much older, but still my, you know, somebody I looked up to and just deeply admired. And because I had younger brothers [Paul Hatchett, Jr. and Kolen Hatchett], it was like having all these older brothers right next door, 'cause there were like four Holmes brothers, Hamp being the oldest, and loved him to the bone. And I can still remember my father [Paul Hatchett, Sr.] rushing into the house, because literally we lived in a cul-de-sac, and they're the only two houses in the cul-de-sac. If you're facing our house, their house was to the left. And our house was kind of on an, a more of an incline, the, the, the way that, to main--the, the, the let--what do you call it?$$Trajectory of the land?$$Yeah, get (simultaneous)--$$(Simultaneous) Or the terrain?$$Terrain, the terrain of the land was kind of, it sloped down, so our house sat higher, and our house was a split level. Their house was, the main level was all on one level. So we could see the street that fed into our neighborhood [Collier Heights, Atlanta, Georgia]. So, really, there was two, there were only two streets that came into our neighborhood. It's a very small neighborhood, a cul-de-sac on one end, which is one where we lived, and a cul-de-sac at the other end, and then the main street that was parallel to our street was--I could see from my parents' bedroom window. My father ran in and said, "Clemmie [Clemmie Barnes Hatchett], they're sending them home," right. And my mother said, "You know, stay here," dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. She rushed over to see about Mrs. Holmes [Isabella Holmes]. The men in our community stood vigil, they did, because at that point you didn't know who to trust on the, trust on the police force [Atlanta Police Department] and all of that. You just didn't know how they were gonna be protected. And I remember looking out of the front bedroom window when they pulled up with Charlayne and Hamp. And the men held coats to make a tent to get them in the house, right. And just the tension, and my father told me to go and stand in their bedroom, my parents' bedroom window, so I had a clear shot of the cars coming down, "Oh no," and to let him know if I saw cars that--'cause you know, everybody knew everybody in the neighborhood--that I didn't, that I, that I didn't recognize. That's how tense that situation was. Years later, I guess two years ago now, it was my honor, I mean special privilege, to be invited by the University of Georgia to do the Holmes-Hunter Lecture series, that I did the lecture. And I stood up, and I had to get my composure, because for me it was very personal, deeply personal to have lived through that as a kid and watching, watching that happen, and understanding the courage that it took not just for Hamp and Charlayne but for the families and you know, and for the neighbors and just the, the love and support of, you know, we're here, and they did. They, you know, the community just was a very small neighborhood all stood by him, you know, very proud of him. And then, of course, he went on to be the first black to, to finish Emory medical school [Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia], you know. And just, I was heartbroken when he died. He died much too early, much too soon.$My father [Paul Hatchett, Sr.] said, "She's right. Colored children don't get new books." Well, I didn't understand that. And he said to me, "So I want you to go into your room and get your box of crayons," I had a little red table with two red chairs. And he said, "I want you to sit down and write your own story." I didn't get that at six, oh, but baby, I got it now, because my father in his wisdom knew that he and my mother [Clemmie Barnes Hatchett] couldn't fix a society where colored children were not treated equally like they should have been and that even though there were decisions coming down from the [U.S.] Supreme Court that clearly hadn't made it down to my little elementary school [Anderson Park Elementary School] in Atlanta, Georgia, and this is what happened. He said, "Write your own story." I've used that story in motivational speeches all over the country to say that he didn't let me linger at the pity party about what I didn't have. He told me to go on and write my story. And so what I do is I use that story to say that in my father's wisdom, although they couldn't protect me from, from this society and what was happening to colored children and colored people in that area, he couldn't fix the society, but he could fix me. And that is the lesson that he poured into me, that I had to write my own story. And again, I didn't get it in first grade.$$Now, now--$$But I so--$$--I'm, I'm thinking that you had books in, at home, I would guess (unclear) (simultaneous)--$$(Simultaneous) Oh, I had books at home which is how I knew how to read. You know, I, I, I--my parents taught me to read before I went to school, so I had books at home.$$Yeah--$$You know--$$--that, that seemed like a major community issue to be brought to the City of Atlanta. I mean, (unclear)--$$They didn't (simultaneous)--$$--(simultaneous) schools, they didn't have any books--$$They didn't care. And my parents paid the same amount of taxes as the white children's parents, but that is how things operated, you know, when I was, when I was young. And so it, it was, it was a issue, but you know, the school board is all white; the mayor is all white; the city council [Atlanta City Council] is all white, you know. I mean, there was--it wasn't until there got to be more momentum in the Civil Rights Movement that these things became--you know, but I had horrible, horrible facilities and, and, and, and you know, just thrown out stuff.$$Yeah.$$The school building wasn't so horrible, but the fa- you know, but we had to work with. But the lesson was: when you hit hard places, when you hit hard places in your life, and there are gonna be torn pages in life's book, whether it's racism or sexism or ageism, or whatever-ism, you know, poverty, whatever it is, that's when you have to write your own story, that's when you have to dig deep and not continue to function as a victim, but how do you figure out how you're gonna be victorious. And that is a valuable gift that my father gave me. And in honor of him, when I was a commencement speaker--what year was that? I'll have to think of that in a minute--at Clark Atlanta University [Atlanta, Georgia], I told that class that story because I said that that was such a special gift from my father, because see, I was told I could do anything. I did not grow up believing that being a little colored girl in the Deep South was a curse, 'cause my daddy told me; my mama told--you know, I heard positive reinforcement from my teachers and people at church [Providence Missionary Baptist Church, Atlanta, Georgia] and my neighbors, and you know, and so I grew up believing that, that I could do anything, you know. And that is the message that I think that people have to hear from my dad's story, my dad's gift, my life lesson, is that we have to write our own stories--$$Sure. Did (simultaneous)--$$--(simultaneous) and why I'm so honored to be interviewed by HistoryMakers [The HistoryMakers], because you're preserving--$$Well, it's--the honor is ours (laughter).$$--our stories.

The Honorable Gabrielle Kirk McDonald

Judge Gabrielle Kirk McDonald was born on April 12, 1942 in St. Paul, Minnesota to James Kirk and Frances English. McDonald was raised in Manhattan, New York and in Teaneck, New Jersey, where she graduated from Teaneck High School in 1959. In the early 1960s, she attended Boston University and Hunter College. She then went on to attend Howard University School of Law, where she was Notes Editor for the Howard Law Journal and received several academic awards. McDonald graduated cum laude and first in her class with her LL.B. degree in 1966.

Upon graduation, McDonald was hired as a staff attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. From 1969 to 1979, she was a founding partner, with her then-husband, attorney Mark T. McDonald, of the Houston, Texas law firm of McDonald & McDonald. While in private practice, she also taught law as an assistant professor at the Thurgood Marshall School of Law, Texas Southern University, and then as a lecturer at the University of Texas School of Law.

In 1979, McDonald was appointed as a judge on the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas. She was the first African American to be appointed to the federal bench in Texas (and the South) and only the third African American woman federal judge in the country. McDonald resigned from the bench in 1988 and joined the law firm of Matthews & Branscomb. She also returned to academia, teaching first at St. Mary’s University School of Law, and then at the Thurgood Marshall School of Law. In 1991, she became counsel to the law firm of Walker & Satterthwaite, and later served as Special Counsel to the Chairman on Human Rights for Freeport-McMoRan, Inc.

In 1993, McDonald received the highest number of votes from the General Assembly of the United Nations and served as one of eleven judges on the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. In 1997, she became the Tribunal’s president. Then, in 2001, McDonald was called to serve as an arbitrator on the Iran-United States Claims Tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands, where she remained until her retirement in 2013.

Her publications include the co-edited volume, Substantive and Procedural Aspects of International Criminal Law: The Experience of International and National Courts, and numerous articles including The International Criminal Tribunals: Crime and Punishment in the International Arena, and Problems, Obstacles and Achievements of the ICTY.

McDonald was a member of the Board of Trustees of Howard University for twenty-three years. She also served on boards for the American Bar Association Human Rights Center and the American Arbitration Association, as well as on the Genocide Prevention Task Force. In 2014, she was elected Honorary President of the American Society of International Law. Her honors include the National Bar Association's first Equal Justice and Ronald Brown International Law Awards; the American Society of International Law's Goler T. Butcher Award for Human Rights; the Open Society Institute's first Women Groundbreakers in International Justice Award; the Dorothy Height Lifetime Achievement Award; and the Doctor of Laws Honoris Causa from several institutions. She was inducted into the Texas Women’s Hall of Fame in 1993 and the National Bar Association Hall of Fame in 2008.

McDonald has two children, Michael and Stacy, who are both lawyers.

Gabrielle Kirk McDonald was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on August 27, 2014.

Accession Number

A2014.184

Sex

Female

Interview Date

8/27/2014

Last Name

McDonald

Maker Category
Marital Status

Divorced

Middle Name

Kirk

Occupation
Schools

Howard University School of Law

Hunter College

Boston University

Teaneck Senior High School

The Manumit School

JHS 101

Ps 108 Philip J Abinanti School

St Peter Claver School

First Name

Gabrielle

Birth City, State, Country

St. Paul

HM ID

MCD07

State

Minnesota

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Speakers Bureau Region State

New York

Birth Date

4/12/1942

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

New York

Country

USA

Short Description

Judge and educator The Honorable Gabrielle Kirk McDonald (1942 - ) was the first African American to be appointed to the federal bench in Texas and the third African American woman federal judge in the country. She also served as a judge on the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, and as an arbitrator on the Iran-United States Claims Tribunal.

Employment

NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc.

McDonald & McDonald

Texas Southern University Thurgood Marshall School of Law

University of Texas School of Law

United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas

Matthews & Branscomb

St. Mary's University School of Law

Walker & Satterthwaite

Freeport-McMoRan, Inc.

International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia

Iran-United States Claims Tribunal

The Honorable Kenneth M. Hoyt

Judge Kenneth Michael Hoyt was born on March 2, 1948 in San Augustine County, Texas. His father, Earl, was a barber; his mother, Fannie, a beautician. Hoyt attended Lincoln Elementary School and Lincoln High School, both in San Augustine, Texas. He received his A.B. degree from Texas Southern University in 1969 and his J.D. degree from Texas Southern University’s Thurgood Marshall School of Law in 1972, where he served as an editor for the Law Review.

From 1972 to 1981, Hoyt worked as an attorney at the Houston, Texas law firms of Wickliff, King, Hoyt & Jones; Anderson, Hodge, Hoyt & Jones; and Hoyt, Webster, Shepard & Anderson. While practicing law, Hoyt also fulfilled a six year military reserve commitment from 1972 to 1978. In addition, he served as city attorney for Kendleton, Texas and Prairie View, Texas from 1975 until 1981.

In 1981, Governor Bill Clements appointed Hoyt to preside over the 125th Civil District Court of Texas. He also practiced law through his firm, Kenneth M. Hoyt, P.C., from 1982 to 1985. During that time, Hoyt was a member of the faculty of the South Texas College Trial Advocacy Program, and from 1983 to 1984, he was an adjunct professor at the Thurgood Marshall School of Law. From 1985 to 1988, Hoyt served as a justice of the First Court of Appeals of Texas. Then, on November 24, 1987, Hoyt was nominated by President Ronald Reagan to a seat on the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas. He was confirmed by the United States Senate in March of 1988, and received his commission on April 1, 1988. Hoyt was the second African American federal judge in the state of Texas. He took senior status on March 2, 2013.

Hoyt has received numerous awards, including the City of Kendleton Service Award, the Willie Melton Civic Memorial Award, three Houston Business and Professional Men’s Club awards, the Ethel Ranson Art and Literary Award, the National Black Law Students Association President’s Award, an Institute for Social Justice Award, the Houston Lawyers Association Outstanding Service Award, the Gardere 10th Annual Martin Luther King Oratory Award, San Augustine’s Key to the City Award, the Thurgood Marshall Christian Legal Society Award, an NAACP award, and multiple awards from the Thurgood Marshall School of Law. Hoyt has also served on many state and local bar committees, including the Thurgood Marshall School of Law ABA Blue Ribbon Committee and the Governor’s Blue Ribbon Criminal Justice Corrections Committee.

Hoyt lives in Houston, Texas with his wife, Veola Johnson Hoyt. They have three children: Michael, an economist, Stacy, an educator, and Justin, a chemist.

Kenneth Hoyt was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on March 5, 2014.

Accession Number

A2014.084

Sex

Male

Interview Date

3/5/2014

Last Name

Hoyt

Maker Category
Marital Status

Married

Middle Name

Michael

Occupation
Schools

Lincoln Elementary School

Lincoln High School

Texas Southern University

Thurgood Marshall School of Law, Texas Southern University

Speakers Bureau

Yes

Speakers Bureau Availability

Days and Evenings

First Name

Kenneth

Birth City, State, Country

San Augustine County

HM ID

HOY01

Speakers Bureau Preferred Audience

Youth, Teens and Seniors

Speakers Bureau Honorarium

No

State

Texas

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Texas

Birth Date

3/2/1948

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Houston

Country

USA

Short Description

Judge The Honorable Kenneth M. Hoyt (1948 - ) was the second African American to be named a federal judge in the state of Texas. He served on the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas.

Employment

U.S. Federal Courts

Texas Appellate Courts

Kenneth M. Hoyt, P.C.

125th Judicial District (TX)

Hoyt, Webster, Shepherd & Anderson

Anderson, Hodge, Hoyt & Jones

Wickliff, King, Hoyt & Anderson

Sears, Roebuck and Co.

Texas Southern University

W. Bell & Co.

Fairway Farm Club