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Beverly E. Smith

Corporate chief executive Beverly Ann Evans Smith was born April 12, 1948 in Massillon, Ohio to Louie Edward and Willimae Dumas Evans. After receiving her diploma from all girls Central Catholic High School, Canton, Ohio in 1966, she attended and graduated from Bowling Green State University in 1970 with a B.S. in education. Smith earned her M. Ed. degree in education in 1973 from Kent State University.

While still in graduate school, Smith taught high school speech and english for a year. From 1972 to 1974, she was Assistant Director for Student Financial Aid at Kent State University, and from 1974 to 1976, Smith worked as the Assistant Director, Upward Bound at Kent State. She was the Assistant Dean for Student Life for Georgia State University from 1976 to 1978. Smith worked as Manager of Business Services for Southern Bell Telephone Company from 1978 to 1983. From 1984 to 1996, she was employed by the Network Services Division of AT&T in Atlanta, Georgia, where she worked primarily as a District Manager in varied operations functions. From 1988 to 1990, Smith was a loaned executive from AT&T, serving as Executive Director for Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Upon her retirement in 1996, she and her husband established The HR Group, Inc. of Marietta, Georgia, a small business management consulting company with clients from Fortune 500 companies to small business organizations.

Smith regularly serves as a trainer and workshop facilitator in leadership development and strategic planning for non-profits and church groups. Her civic duties include being a member of the National Association of African Americans in Human Resources. Smith is Chair of Cobb County Georgia Board of Elections and Registration and a member of the Board of Directors of Chattahoochee Technical College. A member of Cobb Executive Women, Smith is a 1988 graduate of Leadership Cobb.

Smith is listed in Who’s Who Among Black Americans. Additionally, she is listed in Who’s Who in the South and Southeast and Who’s Who in the World.

Accession Number

A2006.022

Sex

Female

Interview Date

2/16/2006

Last Name

Smith

Maker Category

BusinessMakers

Middle Name

Evans

Occupation

Management Chief Executive

Corporate Chief Executive

Organizations

Schools

Central Catholic High School

Bowling Green State University

Kent State University

First Name

Beverly

Birth City, State, Country

Massillon

HM ID

SMI12

Favorite Season

Fall

State

Ohio

THM DA Link

https://da.thehistorymakers.org/storiesForBio;ID=A2006.022

Web Clip 1

https://thmdaprodmedia.blob.core.windows.net/media/story/video/331310

Favorite Vacation Destination

Anywhere Warm

Bio Photo

Speakers Bureau Region State

Georgia

Interview Description

A2006_022_EAD.pdf

A2006_022_EAC.pdf

Birth Date

4/12/1948

Birth Place Term

Massillon

Speakers Bureau Region City

Atlanta

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Popcorn

Short Description

Corporate chief executive Beverly E. Smith (1948 - ) established the HR Group, Inc., a small business management consulting company.

Employment

Kent State University

Georgia State University

Southern Bell Telephone Company

AT&T

Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

The HR Group, Inc.

Favorite Color

Purple, Red

Web Clip 2

https://thmdaprodmedia.blob.core.windows.net/media/story/video/331327

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DAStories

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331502">Tape: 1 Slating of Beverly E. Smith's interview</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331503">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith lists her favorites</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331504">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith describes her mother's family background</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331505">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith describes her family's road trips from Ohio to Louisiana</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331506">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith recalls her experience in kindergarten</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331507">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith talks about her maternal grandparents</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331508">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith talks about her relation to the author Alexandre Dumas</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331509">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith talks about her father's career and community service</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331510">Tape: 1 Beverly E. Smith describes her father's family background, pt. 1</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331304">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith describes her father's family background, pt. 2</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331305">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith recalls her father's stories of race relations in Georgia</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331306">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith talks about her father's autobiography</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331307">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith describes how her parents met</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331308">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith lists her siblings</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331309">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith describes her earliest childhood memories</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331310">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith recalls integrating her neighborhood and school in Massillon, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331311">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith describes her community in Massillon, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331312">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith describes the sights and smells of her childhood</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331313">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith remembers St. Barbara's Catholic School in Massillon, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331314">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith recalls her personality and aspirations as a young girl</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331315">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith talks about her family</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331316">Tape: 2 Beverly E. Smith recalls her high school experiences</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331317">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith recalls the civil rights era</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331318">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her extracurricular involvement in college</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331319">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith recalls the shootings at Kent State University in 1970</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331320">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her leadership of Bowling Green State University</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331321">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon her education and career</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331322">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her work as a consultant</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331323">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith recalls attending graduate school in university administration</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331324">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her career at Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Company</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331325">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith recalls her directorship of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331326">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith recalls leaving BellSouth Corporation to found a consulting firm</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331327">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her experience of racial discrimination in Corporate America</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331328">Tape: 3 Beverly E. Smith describes her career plans</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331329">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon her career</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331330">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith describes her hopes and concerns for the African American community</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331331">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon the Civil Rights Movement, education and affirmative action</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331332">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith describes the role of religion in the African American community</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331333">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon her life</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331334">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith describes how she would like to be remembered</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331335">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith shares a message for her children</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331336">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon the importance of history</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331337">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith reflects upon her legacy</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331338">Tape: 4 Beverly E. Smith talks about her family</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/331339">Tape: 5 Beverly E. Smith narrates her photographs</a>

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Beverly E. Smith recalls integrating her neighborhood and school in Massillon, Ohio

Beverly E. Smith describes her experience of racial discrimination in Corporate America

Transcript

Can you describe what a school day in the Evans household was like and also tell us what the holidays were like, please?$$School days. About the time when I first went to school-you know, my mom [Willa Mae Dumas Evans] was a homemaker so you know, she always spent time getting us ready. Of course until I was five I didn't have any sisters, so it was just me and she would sometimes walk me to school or have somebody take me--pay somebody. I think the school was about two or three miles away. I walked; firm believer in exercise so I walked. We--when I was in the third grade we moved--now I know I'm skipping, 'cause this was when my sisters [Joan Evans and Michele Evans] were not in school yet. But we integrated--my dad [Louie Evans] was a very strong civil rights activist, and so all of our life growing up, we spent integrating neighborhoods and schools and pools and if he would find out that blacks or Negroes were not allowed anywhere, there we'd go. We'd get in the car or go somewhere. He built a house in a part of town where we were not wanted, as a matter of fact, or there. Matter of fact, the land lot that he bought says that the land can't be--this is interesting the land can't be sold to Negroes or aliens. He could not get a loan in the State of Ohio to buy that property. He finally found a bank in New York State that would give him the money to build the house. The builder that he found was a friend of his that he knew at Sears [Sears, Roebuck and Co.]. He suffered several death threats while that house was being constructed, as did my parents. The night we moved in that house I vividly remember people--men screaming and yelling and driving up and down the street all night long threatening dad. Dad had a Winchester rifle and he stood outside on that front porch all night holding that rifle, determined that he was going to move in and we were going to live in that house. My mother who's very prejudiced, she's not--she'd just as soon stay in an entirely black community; if she could she would have back then, just supported him in the effort but would just have preferred to have no part of that. But we did, we moved in and--. So school--we integrated the school that we were in in terms of the grade school [St. Barbara's Catholic School, Massillon, Ohio].$$How did that work out?$$You know I don't remember any--I don't remember any instances of that being difficult. At this point-you know my dad had always said you can do anything you want to do, you're just as good as anybody else. I had been in schools with majority white students before. Even from the time I was three there was maybe only one other black child in the class with me [at St. Paul's Kindergarten, Massillon, Ohio] and that was a boy so there wasn't any girls. I just did it; he said I need you to do this and so I'd say okay and I'd go. I had friends, boys and girls and we got along very well in the community. I don't know if it was because it was a Catholic school that it wasn't an issue but it was not a problem. The high school was the same way, I did not go to high school in Massillon [Ohio], I went to high school in Canton [Ohio] 'cause he wanted us to go a girls school and a Catholic school. There had been a few other students in the school before; Alan Page graduated from the high school I went to. [HistoryMaker] Renee Powell who is a famous golfer who is black graduated from there. There was one other person in my class, I ended up as class president and most likely to succeed; so I didn't--it was lonely. I remember it being a very lonely existence because there was some things that--some social events and activities that I just did not get the opportunity to participate in and I wrote a lot. As a matter of fact that's when I started writing and I read a lot. I really was--as my mother says, a rather solitary person. But I think you--because you have to get so much strength from inside there--very religious, very focused on my spiritual relationship with God because that really kept me going. But I had a lot of friends, enjoyed myself. But on the social side it was--you know they had to find somebody to take me to the prom. They had to find some black kid in town who'd be willing. I probably went through two or three before they finally found some poor sucker who would take me (laughter).$$Oh, that's not true.$$So, I did go to prom, they found me a date and I went to the prom. But--played in the band, enjoyed school. At that point I was strong enough in who I was and my own self esteem that what I was on the outside wasn't really an issue for me.$$Wonderful.$$Wasn't really an issue for me. Was very involved in school. My mom drove a lot, bless her heart, she drove us back and forth to a whole lot of activities.$$Wonderful. So you had to commute to the school that was outside of Massillon and your mom (simultaneous)--$$(Simultaneous) Took the bus--Greyhound bus because it was literally in Canton which was--Canton must have been fifteen, twenty miles away I guess. It was the next city. My dad did not want us to go to high school in Massillon, he wanted us to go to Central Catholic [Central Catholic High School, Canton, Ohio] and so we did. So she either drove us or we took the bus and after a while Central had a bus for students who came from Massillon to go to (simultaneous).$$(Simultaneous) I see.$How do you feel about the way you--about your accomplishments in Corporate America before starting--before getting involved with your husband [Stephen J. Smith] and your business?$$Stilted by sex and race. I think I had gotten to district manager with that company [BellSouth Corporation; AT&T Inc.], but I still think that there's a glass ceiling; at least there was at the time. And I think I reached a point where no matter what I did I was only going to be able to go so far there. I really made a very rapid rise when I went there with the programs that we implemented that went nationwide and then kind of reached a plateau. There were very few black female district managers back in the '90s [1990s] when I did become a district manager but I think I also realized that unless I was willing to move to New Jersey, opportunities were also going to be slimmer. And it's a real change, corporate tide. So I see things--and I think it's a little bit different now. I think black women have made a whole lot more progress in terms of moving up in companies than they did--you know '96 [1996] isn't really that long ago--than they did ten years ago. But if I was going to be successful and try and figure out what defining success is, but really making a difference for individuals; and I think that's about the point I was at. Was taking the things I had learned and sharing them or using them to make a difference only because I think that's the way my father [Louie Evans] raised us [Smith and her sisters, Joan Evans and Michele Evans] to make a difference someplace. I think I realized at that point I was not going to be able to make that difference in Corporate America at that point in time. The environment just wasn't such that that was going to allow that to happen. And frustration and running into a few bad apples and running into some brick walls and glass ceilings really forced me to really take a strong look at whether or not I was going to be able to do the things that I felt I needed to do or could do in that environment. So I left.

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Stephanie Hughley

Arts administrator and producer Stephanie Smith Hughley is executive producer and co-founder of the National Black Arts Festival in Atlanta, Georgia, one of the most important African American arts festivals in the world and founded in 1987. Hughley served as its Artistic Program Director until 1992. She returned to Atlanta in 1999 to revive the failing and debt stricken organization. Under her leadership, the festivals have expanded from a bi-annual summer arts festival to a yearly ten-day festival held during the month of July and a year round African arts cultural teaching institution, which includes an annual curriculum for teachers and students.

Hughley was born in Canton, Ohio to Lillie Mae and Robert Lee Smith, Sr. on October 16, 1948. She attended Kent State University with aspirations of becoming a medical doctor. While at Kent State, she was introduced to dance. Hughley moved to Boston, Massachusetts in 1969 where she completed her studies and entered the Elma Lewis School of Fine Arts. Hughley obtained her B.S. degree in biology from Northeastern University and her M.Ed. from Antioch College at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

In 1971, Hughley became a dance instructor and taught at Smith College as well as Northeastern, Brandeis and Harvard Universities. She danced with the Dance Theatre of Boston and the National Center of Afro American Artists. In 1976, Hughley moved to New York City, auditioned for a part in the Broadway production of Bubbling Brown Sugar, studied dance at the Alvin Ailey School of Dance and the Little Red School House and apprenticed under the directorship of Ashton Springer in order to expand her theatre management skills. She became General Manager of the Negro Ensemble Company in 1982. Hughley managed and supervised the production of over twelve Broadway shows including, Your Arms Are Too Short To Box With God, Ain’t Misbehavin’ andBubbling Brown Sugar and toured the United States and Europe as the Company Manager of For Colored Girls.

In 1992, Hughley was Theatre and Dance Producer for the Atlanta Committee for the Cultural Olympiad for the 1996 Olympic Games. In 1996, she was commissioned to serve as Vice President of Programs for the newly formed New Jersey Performing Arts Center. Hughley returned to Atlanta in 1999 to become head of the Black Arts Festival.

Hughley serves on the boards of the Metro Atlanta Arts and Culture Coalition (MAACC) and the Atlanta Convention Center and Visitors Bureau. She has been a member of the Association of Theatrical Press Agents and Managers since 1977.

Hughley resides in the Atlanta area with her surviving son, daughter-in-law and three grandchildren.

Accession Number

A2006.014

Sex

Female

Interview Date

2/13/2006

2/15/2006

Last Name

Hughley

Maker Category

Occupation

Organizations

Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

Black United Students Together

Association of Theatrical Press Agents and Managers

Schools

Mckinley High School

Washington Elementary School

Henry S. Martin Elementary School

Hartford Avenue School

Kent State University

Search Occupation Category

ArtMakers:Collectors and Curators

First Name

Stephanie

Birth City, State, Country

Massillon

HM ID

HUG05

Favorite Season

Fall

State

Ohio

THM DA Link

https://da.thehistorymakers.org/storiesForBio;ID=A2006.014

Web Clip 1

https://thmdaprodmedia.blob.core.windows.net/media/story/video/327158

Favorite Vacation Destination

Sapello Island, Georgia

Favorite Quote

All Things Work Together For The Good Of Those That Love The Lord And Are Called According To His Purpose.

Bio Photo

Speakers Bureau Region State

New York

Interview Description

A2006_014_EAD.pdf

A2006_014_EAC.pdf

Birth Date

10/16/1948

Birth Place Term

Massillon

Speakers Bureau Region City

New York

Country

USA

Favorite Food

Salad

Short Description

Arts administrator and producer Stephanie Hughley (1948 - ) co-founder of the National Black Arts Festival in Atlanta, Georgia, one of the most important African American arts festivals in the world. Hughley is also a dancer and has taught dance at several universities. Hughley managed and supervised the production of over twelve Broadway shows including, Your Arms Are Too Short To Box With God, Ain't Misbehavin' and Bubbling Brown Sugar.

Employment

Negro Ensemble Company

Theatre Management Associates

New Jersey Performing Arts Center

Cultural Olympiad

National Black Arts Festival

Favorite Color

Yellow

Web Clip 2

https://thmdaprodmedia.blob.core.windows.net/media/story/video/327070

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<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327114">Tape: 1 Slating of Stephanie Hughley's interview, session 1</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327115">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley lists her favorites</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327116">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes her mother's family background</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327117">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes her father, Robert Smith, Sr.</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327118">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes segregation in Canton, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327119">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes her maternal grandmother, Lola Bradley</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327120">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes her maternal grandfather's farm, pt. 1</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327121">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley describes her maternal grandfather's farm, pt. 2</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327122">Tape: 1 Stephanie Hughley recounts stories of World War II and the Great Depression</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327123">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley describes her paternal grandparents</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327124">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley remembers her maternal grandmother's house</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327125">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley describes holidays with her family</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327126">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley lists her siblings</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327127">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley describes the neighborhoods she grew up in</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327128">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley describes the sights, sounds and smells of her childhood</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327129">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley describes her childhood community in Canton, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327130">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley speculates about her paternal grandmother's heritage</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327131">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley remembers the schools she attended</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327132">Tape: 2 Stephanie Hughley recalls her paternal grandmother's warning about skin color</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327133">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley remembers the support of her black teachers</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327134">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley describes her childhood personality</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327135">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley recalls her family's trips to Alabama</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327136">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley describes her childhood hopes and aspirations</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327137">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley talks about her sister, Sharon Smith Curle</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327138">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley describes her childhood role models</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327139">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley describes the sports culture of Canton, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327140">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley remembers aspiring to be a doctor</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327141">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley recalls her love of dancing</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327142">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley recalls attending Kent State University in Kent, Ohio</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327143">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley describes the political climate of Kent State University</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327144">Tape: 3 Stephanie Hughley remembers the Black Power movement</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327145">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley recalls the black student union at Kent State University</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327146">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley recalls Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327147">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley talks about her racial identity</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327148">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley explains why she moved to Boston, Massachusetts</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327149">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley describes her life in Boston, Massachusetts</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327150">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley describes her education in Boston, Massachusetts</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327151">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley recalls beginning her career in dance</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327152">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley recalls moving to New York City</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327153">Tape: 4 Stephanie Hughley explains how she earned a living early in her dance career</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327154">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley remembers the dance classes she took in New York City</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327155">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley recalls her decision to become a manager on Broadway</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327156">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley remembers working with the Negro Ensemble Company</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327157">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley describes the differences between producer and manager</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327158">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley recalls being asked to manage 'For Colored Girls'</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327159">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley describes touring with 'For Colored Girls'</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327160">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley remembers marrying her second husband</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327161">Tape: 5 Stephanie Hughley recalls her theatrical productions' international tours</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327063">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley remembers managing the Negro Ensemble Company</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327064">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley shares the history of the Negro Ensemble Company</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327065">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley recalls becoming the Negro Ensemble Company's general manager</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327066">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley remembers her decision to move to Atlanta, Georgia</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327067">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley recalls her impression of Atlanta, Georgia</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327068">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley remembers moving to Atlanta, Georgia</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327069">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley recalls becoming the National Black Arts Festival program manager</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327070">Tape: 6 Stephanie Hughley explains what she learned while planning the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327162">Tape: 7 Slating of Stephanie Hughley's interview, session 2</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327163">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley describes the creation of the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327164">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley describes her friend, LaTanya Richardson</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327165">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley remembers contributors to the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327166">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley remembers the National Black Arts Festival parade</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327167">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley remembers the success of the first National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327168">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley recalls the artists at the first National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327169">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley explains the difference between African and European dance</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327170">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley describes the challenges faced by the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327171">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley remembers working on the 1996 Cultural Olympiad</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327172">Tape: 7 Stephanie Hughley narrates her photographs</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327173">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley remembers introducing homeless students to a Norwegian poet</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327174">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley remembers the dance troupes she recruited for the Cultural Olympiad</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327175">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley remarks upon the variation in African arts</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327176">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley remembers the Celebrate Africa festival, pt. 1</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327177">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley remembers the Celebrate Africa festival, pt. 2</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327178">Tape: 8 Stephanie Hughley recalls consulting on the New Jersey Performing Arts Center</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327088">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley remembers leaving the Cultural Olympiad planning committee</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327089">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley shares her memories of the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327090">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley describes the ethnic communities of New Jersey</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327091">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley describes the New Jersey Performing Arts Center's success</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327092">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley remembers organizing the Africa Exchange program</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327093">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley recalls organizing festivals for the New Jersey Performing Arts Center</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327094">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley talks about the importance of cultural exposure</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327095">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley remembers returning to Atlanta, Georgia</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327096">Tape: 9 Stephanie Hughley recalls returning to the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327097">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley describes the educational component of the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327098">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley describes her hopes for the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327099">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley remembers the September 11 attacks</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327100">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley talks about the effects of the September 11 attacks</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327101">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley remembers the Diverse Voices, Collective Spirit holiday celebration</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327102">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley talks about the frequency and location of the National Black Arts Festival</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327103">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley recalls the themes of recent National Black Arts Festivals</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327104">Tape: 10 Stephanie Hughley talks about the National Black Arts Festival's twentieth anniversary</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327179">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley talks about celebrating African American pioneers</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327180">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley talks about her family's white ancestry</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327181">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley explains why she decided to share her story</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327182">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley offers advice to young people</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327183">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley describes her hopes for the African American community</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327184">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley describes how she would like to be remembered</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327185">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley reflects upon her legacy</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327186">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley talks about the importance of The HistoryMakers</a>

<a href="https://da.thehistorymakers.org/story/327187">Tape: 11 Stephanie Hughley narrates her photographs</a>

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Stephanie Hughley recalls being asked to manage 'For Colored Girls'

Stephanie Hughley explains what she learned while planning the National Black Arts Festival

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Okay, so what happened next? Where did you go from there (simultaneous)?$$(Simultaneous) Well, here I was in this union [Association of Theatrical Press Agents and Managers (ATPAM)]. And this young woman by the name of [HistoryMaker] Ntozake Shange had written a play called 'For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide / When the Rainbow Is Enuf.' And they had taken the play from California, I think they found it in the San Francisco [California] area, in the Bay area [San Francisco Bay Area, California], and brought it down to first Henry Street [Henry Street Settlement, New York, New York], Woodie King [HistoryMaker Woodie King, Jr.] was involved with it. And then they were--then they took it to The Public Theater [New York, New York] to the Shakespeare Festival [New York Shakespeare Festival; Shakespeare in the Park], Joseph Papp was the producer there. And he was working with a general manager by the name of Manny Azenberg [Emanuel Azenberg]. And they decided to take the show to Broadway. But Ntozake had told them that she wanted a black woman company manager. Well they weren't able to--there were, there were none 'cause the only black woman company manager [Carolyne A. Jones] was doing 'Bubbling Brown Sugar' [Loften Mitchell]. And they opened the show on Broadway and they decided that they were gonna take a company out on the road. And Ntozake told them that they were absolutely not taking out that company without a black woman manager. So I had met Joe Papp. He was certainly the impresario of Broadway. And he and Manny Azenberg took me lunch one day and asked me would I consider taking this show out on the road as the company manager. And I said, "Well, I'm only an apprentice." And they said, "Well, we'll hold the contract, we're in the union, we'll hold the contract. And you'll go take the show out." Now my union got wind of this and they were like you can't take a show out on the road, you're only an apprentice, you've only been an apprentice for a year and you have to apprentice for three years. And Joe and Manny, they said, "Listen, they can't stop you." And so I decided to take the show. So I went out on the road with the first national company. I got trained in New York [New York] at the Broadway theater, the Booth Theatre. And we had auditions there and hired all the women. But I went out on the road as the first, the first national company of 'For Colored Girls.' I was the company manager. It was funny too because at first I said to them, "Are you paying me the full salary?" And they said, "Well, but you're not really in the union." And I said, "But I'm doing the work." And they said "Okay."$$So they paid you.$$They paid me the full salary. And my goodness, this was in 1977. And you know my goodness, they were making like, I forgot like seven hundred dollars a week. Good grief, I went from poverty to, you know, to the big house.$$You're not joking. That was (simultaneous)--$$(Simultaneous) That was serious.$$--good money.$$Those girls were making more than that. The actresses were making outrageous sums of money, plus per diem, you know, two, three hundred dollars a week per diem. So we were all in heaven. And the show as a phenomena. It--nobody knew what it was. We went all over this country, to all the A cities, Washington [D.C.], Philadelphia [Pennsylvania], Chicago [Illinois], Detroit [Michigan], you know, Wilmington [Delaware], all over the country. And nobody knew what it was. They couldn't pro- they couldn't even pronounce the title. We would go to the box office and collect all of the names. The box office treasurer would write down the names of all the names people, 'For Black Girls who Killed Themselves,' you know. But we had a phenomenal company.$$And how long did you stay on the road with it?$$We stayed on the road--well I stayed on the road with them over a year. And then I actually met my second husband [Thomas Hughley, Jr.] touring through Chicago. And one of the lead actresses, LaTanya Richardson, introduced me to him. They had gone to Spelman [Spelman College, Atlanta, Georgia] and Morehouse [Morehouse College, Atlanta, Georgia] together. And I met him and he proposed to me and I left the company and actually married him some months later. But that was a pretty amazing tour. It was, it was a phenomena, that's all I can tell you. In every city we made more money. It was outrageous.$You talk about finally getting connected to my African centeredness. I think the National Black Arts Festival did that more than anything else in my life.$$And how so would you say that occurred?$$Well, there was a man by the name of Worth Long who lives here still.$$And it's Worth, W-O-R-T.$$W-O-R-T-H Long, L-O-N-G. He has since been named a Heritage [National Heritage Fellowships] award winner from Smithsonian [sic. National Endowment for the Arts (NEA)]. But I met Worth Long, and Worth Long started to teach me about African American history. He took me over to the Sea Islands. He took me down in the backwoods of Mississippi and Alabama. I met people that were playing spoons and one string guitars and I learned about shape note singing and lining in--$$What note singing is that?$$Shape note singing and lining in hymn singing. Shape notes, do, do, do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do, do-do, re-re, you know, shape note singing. I learned about lining in hymn singing, that that's what my [maternal] grandfather [Ciscero Bradley] and all those people down in--on that Alabama farm in Luverne, outside of Luverne, Alabama. Rural route box number. And that old church when one person would start singing--and then everybody would sing right behind him. I learned so many things from Worth Long. From folks at the Smithsonian Institution [Washington, D.C.], you know, about African American history. I knew my grandmothers, but I didn't know my grandmothers' grandmothers', and where they came from, and, and I didn't under--I didn't know about the Great Migration, you know. I didn't know about--I didn't even care to know about all that history going back and how a slave owner had raped the enslaved women in the house and, and how my family went from dark, dark black to white. I didn't even care about any of that until I got into the National Black Arts Festival and I started to meet the people who were rooted and grounded in the history. And I was amazed at how many people who live in Atlanta [Georgia] have never been to the Sea Islands. They didn't know about the African retention of culture in those Sea Island people. And so I saw this incredible opportunity to bridge Africa and African American history in a way that had not been really done in this country before, through music, dance, theater, film, visual art, performing art, literary art and folk art. People came from all over the world, and they came from all over this country. And they converged around this incredible celebration. I started working March or March of 1987 and we did the first festival in July of 1988. It was the end of July, beginning of August. And boy, we decided the first festival was gonna focus on the Harlem Renaissance. And it was funny because when they decided to call the National Black Arts Festival, the only thing I would have still done differently with that title. A lot of people say you shouldn't call it black, you should, you know. Only thing I would have changed would have been the International Black Arts Festival. Because there's no way that you could tell the story about African American people and not begin in Africa. So I have these incredible opportunities to travel to Africa for the first time. I got off that plane and kissed the ground in Ghana and in Senegal where I saw the people who were looking like my [paternal] grandmother's [Zella Smith] people who I decided were from Sapelo Island in Georgia, all the way up to today. I saw the continuum of African people, and I realized that we as African Americans, we were the most ignorant about it all because we had been so brainwashed into believing that Africa was the dark continent. When I got there, it was the brightest continent I'd ever seen in all of my travels. It was the most colorful, the most brilliant, the most, the most incredible sounds and smells and, and I realized that this festival was important. That it was important for us to do it. It was important for us to have this moment in time to go back and reflect and, and build the bridge. And build the bridge not only from African to this country, but from this country into our everyday lives. To bring the art back to the people. And I realized that art was just this very marginalized term in this country. That art was a picture on a wall. An artist was a singer or a painter. But in fact art was just one expression of culture, and that this was really about culture and creativity. If you boil it all down to its basic common denominator, it's about culture and creativity. 'Cause everybody has culture and everybody has creativity. And art was just one manifestation of those two things. And so for me you know, that's why I took on the National Black Arts Festival and I guess that's why I'm still here.

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