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Leatrice McKissack

Leatrice B. McKissack was born Leatrice Buchanan to Catherine Brummell Buchanan and Archie Buchanan on July 27, 1930 in Keytesville, Missouri. McKissack was raised by her mother and stepfather, historian Dr. Alruthens A. Taylor, who was assistant to Dr. Carter G. Woodson and a dean at Nashville’s Fisk University. McKissack began her education at Marceline Elementary School in Missouri, attended Washington Junior High School in Nashville and graduated from Pearl High School in 1948. At Fisk University, she majored in chemistry and mathematics and was inspired by a faculty that included Aaron Douglas, Arna Bontemps, John W. Work, III, Langston Hughes and school president, Charles S. Johnson. In 1949, McKissack married William DeBerry McKissack, son of Moses McKissack, the 1905 founder of McKissack & McKissack, a historic African American architectural firm. McKissack graduated from Fisk University with her B.S. degree in mathematics in 1951. In 1957, she earned her M.S. degree in psychology from Tennessee State University.

McKissack began teaching elementary and junior high school students in Nashville’s segregated school system in 1952. However, poor health compelled her to resign in 1969. During her recuperation, McKissack collected the work of black artists and served on the Amistad II Art Advisory Board and the American Institute of Architects Auxiliary. McKissack assumed the management of the family-owned 216 unit College Hill Apartments in 1979. In 1983, after her husband suffered a stroke, she became the CEO of both McKissack & McKissack and McKissack Contracting Company. In 1984, McKissack sued the City of Nashville for racial discrimination and merged her firm with Thompson-Miller, becoming McKissack & McKissack & Thompson. In 1987, she was awarded the design contract for the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, Tennessee. That same year, McKissack landed a $50 million contract from Howard University and won the National Female Entrepreneur of the Year Award. In 1993, McKissack won the firm’s first contract with the TVA. She also recruited her three daughters, all professional engineers, back to the firm and expanded offices to Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., New York and Chicago. In 1991, she formed McKissack Development Corporation to build affordable housing.

McKissack has been a member of the Nashville Chamber of Commerce, the Tennessee Board of Economic Growth and President Clinton’s 1994 Design Award Jury. She is a board member of Fisk University, United Way, Cheekwood Fine Arts Center and the Nashville Symphony. McKissack’s many awards include the U.S. Department of Commerce’s National Female Entrepreneur Award in 1990 and the Human Relations Award from the Nashville chapter of the National Conference of Christians and Jews in 1996. The firm of McKissack & McKissack has been honored by the National Park Service by the listing of four of its buildings on the National Register of Historic Places.

McKissack was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on March 13, 2007.

Accession Number

A2007.087

Sex

Female

Interview Date

3/13/2007

Last Name

McKissack

Maker Category
Organizations
Schools

Pearl-Cohn Entertainment Magnet High School

Fisk University

Washington Junior High School

Tennessee State University

First Name

Leatrice

Birth City, State, Country

Keytesville

HM ID

MCK11

Favorite Season

Fall

Sponsor

Reynaldo Glover

State

Missouri

Favorite Vacation Destination

Paris, France

Favorite Quote

Life Is A Bowl Of Cherries. Live It While You Can.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Tennessee

Birth Date

7/27/1930

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Nashville

Country

United States

Favorite Food

Seafood

Short Description

Architecture chief executive Leatrice McKissack (1930 - ) won the contract for the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, Tennessee. She was the CEO of McKissack & McKissack architectural firm.

Employment

McKissack and McKissack

Wharton Junior High School

Main Sponsor
Favorite Color

Red

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DAStories

Tape: 1 Story: 1 - Slating of Leatrice McKissack's interview

Tape: 1 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack lists her favorites

Tape: 1 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack describes her mother's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack describes her father's family background

Tape: 1 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her mother's second marriage

Tape: 1 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack describes her earliest childhood memory

Tape: 1 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her family's farm in Keytesville, Missouri

Tape: 1 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack describes her father

Tape: 1 Story: 9 - Leatrice McKissack describes her stepfather

Tape: 1 Story: 10 - Leatrice McKissack recalls the winters in Missouri

Tape: 1 Story: 11 - Leatrice McKissack describes the smells and sounds of her childhood

Tape: 1 Story: 12 - Leatrice McKissack remembers walking to school in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 1 Story: 13 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her friends at Fisk University in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 2 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack recalls Marceline Colored School in Marceline, Missouri

Tape: 2 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her early interest in science

Tape: 2 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her schools and early aspirations

Tape: 2 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack remembers how she met her husband

Tape: 2 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack describes her husband

Tape: 2 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack recalls working for Rust College in Holly Springs, Mississippi

Tape: 2 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack remembers Pearl High School in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 2 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her studies at Fisk University

Tape: 2 Story: 9 - Leatrice McKissack describes her experiences at Pearl High School

Tape: 2 Story: 10 - Leatrice McKissack recalls the notable figures at Fisk University

Tape: 2 Story: 11 - Leatrice McKissack remembers lessons from her mother

Tape: 3 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack describes her interest in cooking

Tape: 3 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack recalls teaching at Meigs Junior High School in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 3 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack recalls teaching at Wharton Elementary and Junior High School in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 3 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her early involvement in McKissack and McKissack

Tape: 3 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack remembers traveling with Calvin McKissack, pt. 1

Tape: 3 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack remembers traveling with Calvin McKissack, pt. 2

Tape: 3 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack describes the poverty she witnessed in Haiti

Tape: 3 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack recalls the construction of the Tuskegee Army Airfield

Tape: 3 Story: 9 - Leatrice McKissack remembers undergoing a series of surgeries

Tape: 3 Story: 10 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her mother's heart attack

Tape: 4 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her third operation

Tape: 4 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her mother's death

Tape: 4 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack recalls the deaths of friends and family

Tape: 4 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her early role at McKissack and McKissack

Tape: 4 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack remembers her husband's stroke

Tape: 4 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack recalls restoring the president's home at Tuskegee Institute

Tape: 4 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her experiences of racial discrimination

Tape: 4 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack remembers suing the City of Nashville, pt. 1

Tape: 4 Story: 9 - Leatrice McKissack remembers suing the City of Nashville, pt. 2

Tape: 5 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack describes her interactions with banks

Tape: 5 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack remembers the executives at McKissack and McKissack

Tape: 5 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack recalls promoting a secretary

Tape: 5 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack recalls selling McKissack and McKissack's construction company

Tape: 5 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack recalls uncovering corruption in McKissack and McKissack, pt. 1

Tape: 5 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack recalls uncovering corruption in McKissack and McKissack, pt. 2

Tape: 5 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack recalls being hired for a project at Howard University

Tape: 5 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack talks about her daughters' careers

Tape: 6 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack reflects upon her success as a manager

Tape: 6 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack recalls an incident with an employee

Tape: 6 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack describes her reforms at McKisssack and McKissack

Tape: 6 Story: 4 - Leatrice McKissack recalls working on the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, Tennessee

Tape: 6 Story: 5 - Leatrice McKissack recalls her favorite architectural projects

Tape: 6 Story: 6 - Leatrice McKissack remembers collaborating with government officials

Tape: 6 Story: 7 - Leatrice McKissack describes the African American community in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 6 Story: 8 - Leatrice McKissack reflects upon her life

Tape: 6 Story: 9 - Leatrice McKissack reflects upon her legacy

Tape: 6 Story: 10 - Leatrice McKissack talks about racial discrimination in Nashville, Tennessee

Tape: 6 Story: 11 - Leatrice McKissack talks about her racial identity

Tape: 7 Story: 1 - Leatrice McKissack describes how she would like to be remembered

Tape: 7 Story: 2 - Leatrice McKissack describes her plans for the future of her company

Tape: 7 Story: 3 - Leatrice McKissack narrates her photographs

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Leatrice McKissack remembers traveling with Calvin McKissack, pt. 2
Leatrice McKissack remembers collaborating with government officials
Transcript
A lot of times people were throwing parties in his honor. One of my classmates at Fisk [Fisk University, Nashville, Tennessee] was named Tippenhauer, in school at Fisk we called him the banana boat boy, but his parents were wealthy and the Tippenhauers were the ones that was having a fabulous party for us when we went down there, because Uncle Calvin [Calvin McKissack] knew all of them. Now, we had what you call guides, you know, and interpreters, 'cause they spoke nothing but French and you could not go out without either Savane [ph.], or Mr. Louie [ph.], those were the two guides and the people that we had that were to take care of us and took us everywhere we were together. And so, Savane is still living today and he lives in Florida, and he had spent time at, in Nashville [Tennessee] with, at the company [McKissack and McKissack], you know, at the firm with Uncle Calvin, and 'cause he was one helping them get the project, Father George [ph.] in Port-au-Prince [Haiti] was the commissioner of education, he owned a villa up in Kenscoff [Haiti], with forty-five rooms, and every weekend he would come down from Kenscoff which was about thirty miles, pick us up and take us back up into the mountains. We were so high up, that he would, we could sit out on one of his balconies and see the planes landing in Port-au-Prince. Now it was 99 degrees in Port-au-Prince, it was 45 up in Kenscoff, I mean you would go from hot to cold, but we didn't mind 'cause it was so hot in Haiti, but it was not hot in Kenscoff. And then there was another lovely place called Petion-Ville [Haiti], which was about halfway between the two and he would, we would go out to dinner and places like that, to French restaurants and it was just fabulous, we went to [HistoryMaker] Katherine Dunham's home, she had a villa in Port-au-Prince, and the thing that, I'll never forget the day we went to her home 'cause she served us punch, a coconut punch with Scotch, I'm allergic to coconut and I drank some of that punch and on that night we were on are way to Petion-Ville, I began to become ill and I said, "Oh God," I said, "Uncle Calvin, I am deathly ill." I said, "Can you all just let me out on the side of the road." I thought I was gonna die, but they took me back to the hotel and I stayed there the night, and the next day I was okay, but I was so sick, I said, "I'm highly allergic to coconut, bananas and pineapple and I'll tell you, you'd almost have to kill me to eat, get me to drink some coconut milk." (Laughter) Would you like a Coke [Coca-Cola] (simultaneous)?$$(Simultaneous) Now did you, did you? No.$One of the things that I have done in the past, since I've retired was that, you know, I know people all over the country so, when they would call me, like when, one morning Cheryl [HistoryMaker Cheryl McKissack Felder] called and she said, "Mom your job today is to make sure that we have breakfast with the governor of Tennessee," and I said to her, "Why do we want to have breakfast with the governor of Tennessee?" She said, "Because the governor of New York is coming to meet with the governor of Tennessee, and we need to be at his breakfast table." I said, "So what else do I have to do today, that's a done deal." One phone call, the governor at that time had put me on his economic growth board [Tennessee Board for Economic Growth]. I was on, and there is a paper right there on it, the economic growth board for the State of Tennessee, which was very interesting. Cher- I had taken Cheryl to Europe twice with me with the governor 'cause he had invited me to go, he invited a small group and so Cheryl said, "Mama, you not getting outta here without taking me." So, she went to London [England], we went to Munich [Germany], and then the last time I went she didn't go, he--I went to Stockholm [Sweden] with the governor.$$Now, now which governor is this?$$Sundquist [Don Sundquist], he was a Republican but it didn't matter to me because I mean, after he had put me on his growth board, and that's how we got to be friends and I still get Christmas cards from them every Christmas from the Governor Sundquist and of course Bredesen [Phil Bredesen] was our mayor, then he became governor and also a dear friend of mine. But, the only two women at that table that morning for breakfast was Cheryl and myself and Don Sundquist strategically put Cheryl beside of Pataki [George Pataki] and two weeks after he went back to New York, he called her and said he wanted to have dinner with her and so she was some of, "Mom, how--oh." She said, "How am I gonna be--?" I said, "You're gonna do fine honey, that's why you came to Nashville [Tennessee]. Now you go on and meet with, with Governor Pataki." So he had stood by and did everything he said he was gonna do for our company [McKissack and McKissack]. When I was there in the month of October, we went over to Albany [New York] to a meeting, I mean he, they, that's how Cheryl really got going in New York big time, was because of Pataki.

Donald Stull

Architect Donald L. Stull, was born on May 16, 1937, in Springfield, Ohio. His family moved to Columbus, Ohio in 1949, where he graduated from East High School in 1955. He attended Ohio State University, earning a B.S. degree in architecture in 1961. Two years later, he received a master’s degree in architecture from Harvard University’s Graduate School of Design. For the next four years he developed his skills and knowledge with the Architects Collaborative in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Samuel Glaser Associates in Boston, as a designer and project manager.

Stull, a Fellow of the American Institute of Architects (FAIA), is the founding partner, owner, and president of the architectural firm, Stull and Lee Associates, Inc. Founded in 1966 as Stull Associates, in Boston, Massachusetts, his architectural and urban design and planning firm has been recognized throughout New England and nationally and internationally. Stull’s broad experience and contributions include the design of educational, health care and correctional facilities, highway infrastructure, transit stations and multi-family housing. Stull has also been a leader by bringing attention to the unique contributions of African American architects and urban designers across America with New DesigNation. The first New DesigNation Conference was held in Philadelphia in November 1996. Over 500 designers of color examined issues faced by African Americans in the design profession

In the mid-1960s, Stull established himself as a solo architect and planner for both public and private agencies to meet the needs of a “new Boston,” as a case of urban renewal. In 1990, M. David Lee, a graduate of Harvard’s Graduate School of Design, joined Stull, and the firm became Stull and Lee Associates, Inc. With co-partner Lee and a staff of forty design professionals – Stull and Lee grew from residential design to major building projects in Boston including the Roxbury Community College, the Harriet Tubman House, and the Ruggles Street Station of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA).

Stull and Lee’s most recent awards include the Boston Society of Architects (BSA) Award for Excellence in Architecture for the Boston Police Headquarters; the American Institute of Architects Honor Award for Architecture for the Ted Williams Tunnel (to Boston’s Logan Airport); the BSA’s Honor Award for Design of the Williams Tunnel; and the American Planning Association/Massachusetts Chapter Social Advocacy Award.

Stull is the father of three: Cydney, vice-president and treasurer of a Florida trucking business; Robert, a noted comic book illustrator; and Gia, an art school student.

Donald Stull was interviewed by The HistoryMakers on December 3, 2004.

Accession Number

A2004.246

Sex

Male

Interview Date

12/3/2004 |and| 1/25/2005

Last Name

Stull

Maker Category
Organizations
Schools

East High School

The Ohio State University

Harvard University

Fulton Elementary School

Speakers Bureau

Yes

Speakers Bureau Availability

Any

First Name

Donald

Birth City, State, Country

Springfield

HM ID

STU01

Speakers Bureau Preferred Audience

Architecture, Urban Design, Artistic Pursuit

Speakers Bureau Honorarium

Yes - $1,000 - $5,000

Favorite Season

Fall

Speaker Bureau Notes

Honorarium Specifics: $3000-5000
Preferred Audience: Architecture, Urban Design, Artistic Pursuit

Sponsor

Turner Construction Company

State

Ohio

Favorite Vacation Destination

None

Favorite Quote

Frequently, People Do Bad Things For The Right Reasons.

Bio Photo
Speakers Bureau Region State

Massachusetts

Birth Date

5/16/1937

Birth Place Term
Speakers Bureau Region City

Boston

Country

United States

Favorite Food

Chicken, Clam Chowder, Seafood

Short Description

Architect and architecture chief executive Donald Stull (1937 - ) established Stull and Lee Associates, Inc. in Boston. Stull’s architecture, urban design and planning have profoundly impacted the physical landscape of Boston and other urban areas.

Employment

Stull Associates, Inc.

Stull and Lee Associates, Inc.

Main Sponsor
Favorite Color

Blue

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DAStories

Tape: 1 Story: 1 - Slating of Donald Stull's interview

Tape: 1 Story: 2 - Donald Stull lists his favorites, pt. 1

Tape: 1 Story: 3 - Donald Stull lists his favorites, pt. 2

Tape: 1 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes his maternal family

Tape: 1 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes his mother's background

Tape: 1 Story: 6 - Donald Stull describes his mother

Tape: 1 Story: 7 - Donald Stull describes his father's background

Tape: 1 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes his father's employment

Tape: 1 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his family's emphasis on education

Tape: 1 Story: 10 - Donald Stull describes his younger sister's experience in the Peace Corps

Tape: 1 Story: 11 - Donald Stull remembers his younger sister's death, pt. 1

Tape: 2 Story: 1 - Donald Stull remembers his younger sister's death, pt. 2

Tape: 2 Story: 2 - Donald Stull describes the sights, sounds and smells of growing up, pt. 1

Tape: 2 Story: 3 - Donald Stull describes the sights, sounds and smells of growing up, pt. 2

Tape: 2 Story: 4 - Donald Stull reflects upon his family life growing up

Tape: 2 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes his earliest childhood memories, pt. 1

Tape: 2 Story: 6 - Donald Stull describes his earliest childhood memories, pt. 2

Tape: 2 Story: 7 - Donald Stull describes his early interest in architecture, pt. 1

Tape: 2 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes his early interest in architecture, pt. 2

Tape: 2 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his success at The Ohio State University

Tape: 2 Story: 10 - Donald Stull describes his education in Springfield, Ohio

Tape: 2 Story: 11 - Donald Stull recalls his interest in geometry

Tape: 2 Story: 12 - Donald Stull describes his literary interests, pt. 1

Tape: 3 Story: 1 - Donald Stull describes his literary interests, pt. 2

Tape: 3 Story: 2 - Donald Stull recalls his gang involvement at East High School

Tape: 3 Story: 3 - Donald Stull describes his experience at The Ohio State University

Tape: 3 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes cues division

Tape: 3 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes the impact of cues division

Tape: 3 Story: 6 - Donald Stull recalls the lack of African Americans in the field when he entered the architecture profession

Tape: 3 Story: 7 - Donald Stull recalls receiving The Ohio State University's Outstanding Alumnus Award

Tape: 3 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes The Ohio State University's Alumni Award ceremony

Tape: 3 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his time at Harvard Graduate School of Design

Tape: 3 Story: 10 - Donald Stull recalls graduating from Harvard Graduate School of Design

Tape: 3 Story: 11 - Donald Stull recalls joining The Architects' Collaborative

Tape: 4 Story: 1 - Donald Stull describes his introduction to the architectural profession

Tape: 4 Story: 2 - Donald Stull describes Stull Associates in Boston, Massachusetts

Tape: 4 Story: 3 - Donald Stull describes Stull Associates' transition period

Tape: 4 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes his involvement with Yale University

Tape: 4 Story: 5 - Donald Stull recalls how the Civil Rights Movement impacted his career

Tape: 4 Story: 6 - Donald Stull recalls passing the architectural registration exam

Tape: 4 Story: 7 - Donald Stull remembers Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination

Tape: 4 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes his firm's community development contributions

Tape: 4 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his firm's innovation in technology

Tape: 4 Story: 10 - Donald Stull remembers designing schools in New England, pt. 1

Tape: 5 Story: 1 - Donald Stull remembers designing schools in New England, pt. 2

Tape: 5 Story: 2 - Donald Stull describes the I-95 extension project

Tape: 5 Story: 3 - Donald Stull describes superhighway development

Tape: 5 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes the proposed Interstate 95 extension

Tape: 5 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes Massachusetts Governor Francis W. Sargent's highway development moratorium

Tape: 5 Story: 6 - Donald Stull describes highway alternatives

Tape: 5 Story: 7 - Donald Stull describes Boston's Orange Line

Tape: 5 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes his firm's Boston development projects, pt. 1

Tape: 5 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his firm's Boston development projects, pt. 2

Tape: 6 Story: 1 - Donald Stull talks about urban design

Tape: 6 Story: 2 - Donald Stull describes the development of Boston's Roxbury Community College

Tape: 6 Story: 3 - Donald Stull describes Roxbury Community College's design

Tape: 6 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes Ruggles Station and the Boston Police Headquarters

Tape: 6 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes the Boston Police Headquarters

Tape: 6 Story: 6 - Donald Stull recalls his housing development projects

Tape: 6 Story: 7 - Donald Stull describes his firm's innovation in housing design

Tape: 6 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes his paper, 'The Being in Blackness'

Tape: 6 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes his son, HistoryMaker Robert Stull's, international renown

Tape: 7 Story: 1 - Donald Stull describes environmentalist Julia Allen Field, pt. 1

Tape: 7 Story: 2 - Donald Stull describes environmentalist Julia Allen Field, pt. 2

Tape: 7 Story: 3 - Donald Stull explains his stance against revitalizing Boston's Franklin Park Zoo

Tape: 7 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes the impetus for the Middle Passage Memorial

Tape: 7 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes the Middle Passage Memorial's development

Tape: 7 Story: 6 - Donald Stull describes the Middle Passage Memorial's prospective location on Spectacle Island

Tape: 7 Story: 7 - Donald Stull describes famous memorials that inspired his designs

Tape: 7 Story: 8 - Donald Stull describes the Middle Passage Memorial

Tape: 7 Story: 9 - Donald Stull describes the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.

Tape: 7 Story: 10 - Donald Stull describes Stull and Lee, Inc.'s gallery

Tape: 8 Story: 1 - Donald Stull describes honors that he received

Tape: 8 Story: 2 - Donald Stull reflects upon his life, pt. 1

Tape: 8 Story: 3 - Donald Stull reflects upon his life, pt. 2

Tape: 8 Story: 4 - Donald Stull describes his goals

Tape: 8 Story: 5 - Donald Stull describes how he would like to be remembered

Tape: 8 Story: 6 - Donald Stull reflects upon his legacy

Tape: 8 Story: 7 - Donald Stull narrates his photographs, pt. 1

Tape: 8 Story: 8 - Donald Stull narrates his photographs, pt. 2

Tape: 9 Story: 1 - Donald Stull narrates his photographs, pt. 3

Tape: 9 Story: 2 - Donald Stull narrates his photographs, pt. 4

Tape: 9 Story: 3 - Donald Stull narrates his photographs, pt. 5

Tape: 9 Story: 4 - Donald Stull shares his scale model for the Middle Passage Memorial

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DATitle
Donald Stull describes cues division
Donald Stull describes Roxbury Community College's design
Transcript
Sometime in that process, a person named Rich Miller [Richard A. Miller], who was associate editor at Architectural Forum in New York, came to [The] Ohio State University [Columbus, Ohio] as a visiting professor, and he put together a special project in our senior year to--urban design was just becoming a discipline. Dean [Josep] Lluis Sert, the Spanish architect who came to Harvard [Graduate School of Design, Cambridge, Massachusetts] from Spain, he was a disciple of Le Corbusier, was the--introduced the first academic program in urban design in this country, though he often said, it, it doesn't matter what you call it, everything is architecture. The--but, but, Rich Miller brought the concept of urban design to Ohio State University in this special program, and it was to take a look at an old section of center city called Germantown [German Village, Columbus, Ohio], which had these quaint little buildings and they--and little houses and so on. And it subsequently became famous. It became a major school project. I was one of the members in the--in the team that went into Germantown and analyzed it using cues division, drawn directly from gestalt psychology, which I mentioned before is one of the bases for the way I think and work. So, when you--what, what you do is you, you look to understand the generic characteristics of the thing visually and--before the gingerbread and the--or--and--that--that's what any given period of architecture has a underlying generic skeleton, or structure, that defines it in that period in time, whether it's Victorian or art deco or whatever. And we developed what we called a series of cues division. For example, you can look at the John, John Hancock [Tower, Boston, Massachusetts] building under certain light situations, you, you don't see it, something happens called--there's a cue division, something happens called environmental fusion. And so the glass planes of the wall--of the wall, they blend with the sky units. So, so we developed--so then Perry [Borcher] in the architectural history department had me analyze some of the world's most outstanding architecture using the cues division that we had developed. So, the Parthenon [Athens, Greece], analyzed the Parthenon, relative to things like continuation of edge and environmental fusion, and so on. So, we took a section of his slide collection that he used for teaching and set up a subdivision within it that had to do with that. And that was my beginning. We won a fellowship from the Bruner Foundation in New York City [New York, New York] to do additional research in perceptual psychology, and that's what developed these cues division.$As you designed Roxbury Community College [Roxbury Crossing, Massachusetts], you were always sensitive to the users and, of course, the users in this case are the students, the adult students, and there are adults, many of them. What were the special things that you tried to build in for these users?$$Yeah. The, the--I, I have to go--I think a bit into philosophically the way I think about design. The--if, if one is going to design an educational facility, it's my view that you first need to ask and answer questions regarding, what is education, what is learning? And then begin to evolve a design that's responding to and answering those questions. When I did Roxbury Community College, the question for me at the time was that learning--the conclusion I arrived at was that--is that learning is an interactive process, that it's an interaction between student and books, student and teacher, teacher and teacher, student and student, student and environment. For example, in a learning objective in design, we know that from a physical point of view, from a scientific point of view, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Therefore, the most efficient way to get from one place to another place is that way. However, if that is in a learning environment, the critical question is not how quickly you can get there but what happens to your mind on the way? And so that may not be the shortest distance or the fastest way to get there. You may decide to take the line through a labyrinth of learning experiences. That's one of the reasons Roxbury Community College is not one big mega structure building, but a--but a campus. And so I looked for ways to create the, the places within that environment where one could enjoy the interactive process of learning at very many different levels. We've got some sculptures sitting in different places, places where you can sit outside quietly and contemplate the places and all the buildings where in--that kind of interactive process can happen. The, the dialogue with the community also influenced that because the site happens to be along the foothill of Highland Park [Boston, Massachusetts] where the, the top of the hill is the old standpipe, which--the fort [Roxbury High Fort, Boston, Massachusetts]. And historically, the people who basically were the movers and shakers of Boston [Massachusetts] built their suburb places on the hillsides and the hillside places overlooked the mills down in the valley in Lower Roxbury [Boston, Massachusetts] that were fueled by Stony Brook. So, in that valley, historically, there were New England mill buildings. And so we used that reference for the individual structures of the--of the college. They take on the characteristics and the proportions of, of the mill buildings, and they provide visual vistas from the hill out to the various other parts of the city without looking at one enormous massive building.